The resume of John Kerry.

I commend you on your post. You'll have to excuse RANT as he is obvioulsy a die-hard Kerry supporter and cannot stand to have even one shred of negativity posted about his "Boy". The sad fact of the matter is that MOST of what you posted on the "resume" is in fact true.

Now, to prove a point, watch everyone flame me and accuse me of being a "Bushie" (whatever the hell that is!?:@@. Once they've done that I'll return to conclude my thoughts on the matter.

Thanks for the support, kozmo... I don't get much of it haha

I support you, I am just to lazy to post anything about it most of the time.

Little wonder. It's hard to get support for posting things that aren't true. There are detailed posts above (with facts) to this effect.


[edit on 14-9-2004 by Aelita]

You really aren't getting the whole picture of my point here. It's not partisan at all. The blogoshpere environment to which we all contribute where searching Bush's Resume or any aspect of it to either "prove" or "disprove" a point yields in that case over 727,000 self defeating returns to the very same hit piece.

We broke Google. We all did it. We all should stop.

I don't know how to be any clearer on the matter. Spreading disinfo (even partially true and partially false) is not Denying Ignorance... it's promoting it.

I don't know that "debate" is what's going on. It's a frequently debunked, slipshod piece of research.

Might I suggest that you hunt for more solidly researched pieces instead? The other Bush supporters here tend to stick to those.

Has anyone compared criminal records yet?




EDIT: It's not mine , just open for debate.

[edit on 14-9-2004 by curme]

Want a good chuckle? Got to howiecarr.org and look at the Kerry Korner. All the Kerry trivia that's fit to print, including sound clips such as the infamous "That's not your business" bit. The SUV in Kerry's driveway, photos of Kerry consorting with felons, etc., etc. Great fun for all.

Frequently debunked? Care to debunk the rest of it, other than some things that RANT proved are wishy-washy? like I said, most of these ARE facts.. Some are debatable facts, but that's why this is a debate thread...

There's a reason why I don't reply to some of your posts, curme

By the way, you could open that picture for debate...just not in the political debate thread. We can debate it, if you wish. Post it in cryptozoo-ology..(sp???)

[Edited on 14-9-2004 by Herman]

Here ya go Herm, a little competition for the job never hurt, right?


George W. Bush Resume

Past work experience:

Ran for congress and lost.

Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments: Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as president:

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (www.hyperreal.org...)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleezza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her).

Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.

Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.

For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)

www.buzzflash.com...

[edit on 15-9-2004 by 27jd]

George W. Bush Real Resume

Past work experience:

Ran for congress and lost. HANCE: 1974-1978; elected as a Democrat to the Ninety-sixth and to the two succeeding Congresses (January 3, 1979-January 3, 1985); was not a candidate for reelection in 1984 to the Ninety-ninth Congress but was an unsuccessful candidate for nomination to the United States Senate; changed party affiliation to Republican in 1985; was an unsuccessful candidate for the Republican nomination for governor of Texas in 1986 and 1990

Looks like he lost to a dirty flip flopper. Hance apparently got lucky because he lost as both a democrat and a Republican.

Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie. Thats just cool. Plus Regan (one of our great presidents) was in the movie business

Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Securities and Exchange Commission as part of its investigation a decade ago found that Bush's trading was appropriate.
By the time Bush sold his stock, the cash crisis had been largely resolved," said Jordan. "By May 21, 1990, the major shareholders had agreed to a credit agreement which put $26 million into the company immediately."

Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

Sports teams are payed for by the tax payers. Thats how stadiums are built, or atleast were built. When he bought the team, the Rangers were playing in an old minor-league stadium. It didn't have the fancy sky boxes and other amenities that helped make other franchises much more profitable. As a result, the team couldn't compete with other big-city teams for good players. The tax payers fought to get that stadium set up in Arlington.

With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Bush did not (nor want to) use his fathers name to become governor of Texas. He used the purchase of the baseball franchise to his benefit. Who better to run your state than the owner of your nations pass time.

If you want me to slap your article around a little more I'd be happy to give you a little competition.'

*NOTE: THIS ARTICAL WAS WRITTEN BY MY FRIEND. I TOLD HIM TO PUT THAT, BUT APPARENTLY HE DIDN'T LISTEN.

[Edited on 19-9-2004 by Herman]

yeah right w/e you poser. omg i cant believ you actually said that, how pathetic

The Authentic George W. Bush Resume

Past work experience:

* Ran for congress and lost.
* Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
* Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after he sold all his stock.
* Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to Chicago.
* With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments:

* Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in America.
* Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in the U.S.
* Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
* Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.


Accomplishments as president:

* First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* In his first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
* Members of Bush cabinet are the richest administration in history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history.
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history. · Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).
* All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
* Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view his presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
* Failed to fulfill pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months there are no leads or suspects.
* In the 18 months following the 911 attacks he has successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
* Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

* At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
* AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.
* Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to his fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

herm,

Are you editing that list so that it is accurate? On the windfarm thing I don't believe that he is actually on record as being against it; there are enough big demos in the state already against that it is probably dead....so I believe he is waiting for some report, last I heard anyhow.

Sorry, that was actually my friend who put that in there. I told him to put a thing in there that said it was him, but apparently he didn't listen haha.

Holy $hit, I can't believe that you just said that!!! Managed to f- up three words in a row, good job. I was gonna debate with you, but you just lowered your respect from me ten fold. By the way, true story. Kerry kid heard me talking to my liberal friend, and saying something about him being liberal. He was a neanderthol and didn't know what I said. Assuming it was something bad about liberals, he tried to pick a fight with me. Haha, I can't believe you actually said poser. How old are you?

Well see, in my mind, there are two main things wrong with this resume of Bush's. First: While he did do some wrong things, just like everyone else, alot of this stuff is debatable. While I won't go so far as to say that it's all biased and one sided, alot of it is. It turns alot of things that may have been good OR bad into bad things. Secondly: I know it's to insult Bush, so the writer of this resume neglects to put in anything good about Bush, or reasons TO vote for him. Who knows, he may actually have more good things/reasons to vote for him than the bad things that this person lists. If you look at Kerry, it's not even close. Barely any Kerry supporters KNOW why they're voting for him other than that he's not Bush. I really do respect those who actually do know why they're voting Kerry.

[Edited on 19-9-2004 by Herman]

[Edited on 19-9-2004 by Herman]

That's what kids are fighting over in school these days?!! Politics?!! Whatever happened to gangs and girls? Man, 10 years changes alot I guess. I can just picture the schoolyard drama, "I heard so and so was denouncing Bush's tax policy, I'M SO GONNA KICK HIS @SS AFTER SCHOOL!!!" " That's pretty funny.

Yeah, it was hilarious. It's still the same, though. Most people have no idea what's going on in politics. This moron was just....a moron.