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Topic started on 22-1-2010 @ 02:00 AM by Emerald The Paradigm
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I'm still surprised that the Media has such a grip on the majority of people out there.
Who still believes 9/11 official story? I mean really after ALL the flaws and holes it has? They didn't even investigate the event for God's
Sake!
Do people really think Muslims are all evil? At the same time while the Media is spewing hatred against Muslims the Constitution is being thrown out
of the window. Who is the one that's hurting the country? A few Muslims in the Middle East OR the Bankers that are making BILLIONS IN PROFIT at the
expense of the 300+ Million people living in America? (Goldman Sachs at the end of the year 2009 made RECORD PROFITS of OVER 20 BILLION Dollars, which
by the way, if you didn't know is owned by the Rockefeller Family)
Do people still believe America is a Democracy? I don't even know where people got that nonsense from. America is NOT a Democracy. You see, Democracy
is NOT even Freedom. Democracy is where that 51% accept changes and EVERYONE has to abide by those changes regardless of how crazy they are. How's
that Freedom? So if 49% disagree with something, then they HAVE to abide by the rules because the other 51% want it. And let's not forget when those
51% of the people happen to be gullible morons it doesn't help, since the Media can EASILY brainwash them.
America WAS a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, not a Democracy. So this whole thing about Democracy being spread into the Middle East is a complete fabricated
lie because the country of America itself is NOT even a Democracy? Crazy People.
Also, does no one see that the U.S. has invaded Haiti now?
US says it will stay in Haiti for long term:
presstv.ir...
Of course the U.S. will stay in Haiti for a long term. HAARP weaponry was used to cause the Earthquake in the first place! Think about it for half of
a second.
First, why would there be "Drill Scenarios" by SOUTHCOM for a HAITI Relief a day BEFORE the actual earthquake? (If you think this was a coincidence,
then just WOW you need to go drink more of that Kool-Aid cause it's working)
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Second, why would the U.S. send around 15,000 troops to Haiti and NOT even help out with those troops sent? (It's a planned attack on Venezuela which
will happen VERY SHORTLY)
People need to wake up, I can't even think about how dumb people still are 9 years after the event of 9/11, and these are the majority of people that
are going to be running the future. Thank God Humanity still has a few people left with more than a few brain cells...
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 02:04 AM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Why do you think the U.S. wants to "secure" Pakistan's nuclear arsenal?
They are planning a nuclear false flag to declare a HOLY WAR against the Muslim war, so that they can bring their Zionist fantasies true with a
planned invasion from the skies for the "Messiah's Return".
What do you think Project Bluebeam is about? Do you think it's fake? The people running the show have spent BILLIONS on it, and they ALL believe in
Zionism Ideology.
Connect the dots:
-Washington D.C. is NOT part of America. It is the MILITARY faction of the Zionists.
-Inner City of London is NOT part of the U.K. It is the FINANCIAL faction of the Zionists.
-Vatican City is NOT part of Italy. It is the RELIGIOUS faction of the Zionists.
Israel is just a front right now for what's coming where they want to establish the Temple.
What do all of those 3 locations have in common besides NOT being part of that country? They all worship the OBELISK, and it's a VERY DEEP ROOTED
conspiracy which goes back thousands of years.
But if you can't even grasp the fact that 9/11 was an inside job, then you will NOT grasp the REAL secrets behind the scenes.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 03:02 AM by Titen-Sxull
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reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm
I was with you until you claimed HAARP caused the quake. I've had about enough of hearing that idea presented with less than zero proof. Know why
it's less than zero proof? Because not only is there no evidence HAARP caused it but there is evidence that every earthquake in history is natural
including this one. So we have the precedent "Catastrophic quakes occur naturally" and Haiti is near a major fault, time to connect the dots. Or are
we gonna claim that HAARP, an experiment related to the upper atmosphere is responsible?
It's one thing to question the official story of a clearly man mad disaster, nobody on this site claims that the bombing of Hiroshima was a natural
event so why are so many claiming an earthquake was made by some death ray technology for which there is no evidence. And before anyone brings up the
fact that the government has stated in documents they WANT to control nature, I know that they have, but that doesn't mean they can control quakes or
make the artificial ones seem perfectly natural...
It's an almost delusional paranoid grasping at straws.
Yes the government is out of line. And yes we are a Republic and need to restore the Constitution and no we don't have all the answers on 9/11...
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 05:28 AM by sparrowstail
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People don't like moral dilemmas. People think too much about what others think of them. They do not want to be perceived as a kook or nut job.
It's easy to just tow the line. However it takes work, persistence and courage to challenge TPTB.
People like their little cocoons of blissful ignorance. It's such a warm and fuzzy place with lots of materialistic pleasures and distractions and
so few moral and ethical responsibilities.
It's a thankless and sometimes depressing job unraveling the truth.
My wife who is very practical and pragmatic often says that none of this stuff directly affects my everyday life and interactions and until that day
comes I'm not going to worry about it, why would I, I barely have time for all the other things in my life. Frustrating but I respect her opinions,
I have to, they are shared by so many others that they do count. You can't force the red pill down anyone's throat, they have to be ready
themselves.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 05:33 AM by VintageEnvy
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I believe the official 9/11 story......I dont hate muslims...I think we are democratic, I also agree democracy isnt freedom but it is the closest were
able to get as a nation. I wouldnt call people who believe that 9/11 was carried out by terrorists 'dumb' I would say were humble enough to admit
that they were actually able to get in and hurt us this bad. Im always irritated when people call us dumb for believing this.....you believe yours, I
believe mine..
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 05:35 AM by Dock9
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reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm
Here's a deal. Hope you accept
You remove ALL the muslims from the Western nations they've invaded and dragged down
and I'll do my best to convince the West to stay out of Muslim nations
Deal ?
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 05:55 AM by Titen-Sxull
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Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm
Here's a deal. Hope you accept
You remove ALL the muslims from the Western nations they've invaded and dragged down
and I'll do my best to convince the West to stay out of Muslim nations
Deal ?
In that case it should be set up for all of European descent to be dragged out of the Americas. In fact let's just return everyone else to their
little segregated part of the world and go on being ethnocentric ignorant fools.
Or we can realize its a round world, forget these artificial distinctions and learn to get along and move forward as a species.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 06:09 AM by DelMarvel
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Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
HAARP weaponry was used to cause the Earthquake in the first place!
On the other hand, there are many asking "are people really that dumb" in regard to this claim. And with good reason.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 06:11 AM by Sean48
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Originally posted by DelMarvel
Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
HAARP weaponry was used to cause the Earthquake in the first place!
On the other hand, there are many asking "are people really that dumb" in regard to this claim. And with good reason.
It seems people are that dumb.
HAARP couldn't pop a bag of popcorn.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 06:16 AM by Dock9
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reply to post by Titen-Sxull
Number One: my post wasn't directed to you
Number Two: my post was directed to the OP, as shown, in response to HIS post
Number Three: the deal is as offered, no more no less
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 07:00 AM by Titen-Sxull
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reply to post by Dock9
Well at least you tell it like it is
I have free speech and I read your response and felt like replying, that's all
All I was trying to say was that the lines on a map shouldn't matter and we're all part of the same species here, we should stop arguing over who
gets to be in one country or region and learn to get along. No harm in that.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 07:29 AM by XXXN3O
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reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm
People really are not dumb, they are in a state of fear, nobody can think straight when they are scared.
Thats all it really is.
Do not be frustrated with others as it will only lead you backwards.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 03:33 PM by thewind
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I was with you until you claimed HAARP caused the quake.
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Wow, even former secretary of defense William Cohen admitted back in 1997 that HAARP could cause earthquakes. Also, I see that you are not aware that
the USA and Russia have been at "Scalar" warfare for years? This is well documented.
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 03:48 PM by thewind
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HAARP and Scalar Warfare. Here's some info on both of these topics.
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www.crystalinks.com...
In April 1997, the then U.S. Secretary of Defense William Cohen publicly discussed the dangers of HAARP-like technology, saying "others are engaging
even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic
waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations... It's
real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."
This high level concern is paralled in the April 1997 statement by the U.S. Secretary of Defense over the power of such electromagnetic weaponry.
Russia owns an ionospheric heater as powerful as HAARP, called 'Sura,' which is located in central Russia, roughly 150 km from the city of Nizhny
Novgorod.
Scalar Warfare:
www.prahlad.org...
Scalar Wars
The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics
by Bill Morgan
"By 1957-8 the Soviets had progressed to the point of a giant scalar EM accident in the Urals which exploded nearby atomic wastes, devastating the
area. They had also progressed to development of great new superweapons using their new energetics - weapons to which Khrushchev referred in 1960 when
he informed the Soviet Presidium of a new, fantastic weapon in development, a weapon so powerful that it could wipe out all life on earth if
unrestrainedly employed.'" Tom Bearden
After over 30 years of development, and extensive testing around the globe, these new scalar electromagnetic weapons are up and running and ready to
go. Tom Bearden, at his website Cheniere, dicusses the history of these new scalar electromagnetic weapons in his paper "Historical Background of
Scalar EM Weapons."
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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 08:28 PM by KyoZero
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That is so pathetic...frankly conspiracies are conspiracies for a reason..they haven't been proven
There are just as many holes in the truthers' side of it too so yeah deal with it...some people will believe what they want
Let's pretend for a moment I was a truther...which trust me I am not
Bet let's pretend I wasn't...JUST LIKE THE WHOLE CHRISTIAN thing....if I found a group of people who didn't like my truth why not practice the ole
self restraint and move on
You seem like a person who doesn't use self-restraint
so here is what I propose...
You think I am stupid for not buying into the truther movement...that's fair and I respect your opinion. I am happy you think so little of me and
don't worry it doesn't make me lose any sleep
so here comes step 2
MOVE ON
Keep thinking I am dumb and just walk away...why sit and make ANOTHER whiney post that will change absolutely nothing
-Kyo
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reply posted on 23-1-2010 @ 12:22 PM by sirbikesalot06
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Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
I'm still surprised that the Media has such a grip on the majority of people out there.
Well of course it has a grip on our society. What news do you subscribe to? Is Faux News or the Communist News Network  .
Yesterday I was listening to an interview In TPR's show Texas matters with the interview with Michael Quinn Sullivan heads Texans for Fiscal
Responsibility. One part of the interview, I believe David Martin Davies, ask him common sense questions after Michael pointed out how well we do a
good job on our schools. David asked how Texas Schools are ranked 49th and on our high drop out rate. Michael then went on to compare that if these
people were in charge we would have a post office type of delima. David pointed out how comparing our schools to the Post office was a false
comparison.
Now here's where I get to my point. If you believe that the words of Michael Quinn Sullivan is in the right, then please be the blue guy  .
Now if you believe that David is just some wacko, then please be the blue guy  .
Crazy Conservatives and Loony Liberals are simply two sides of the same coin. No matter how much  of common sense is tap into you, you will fall
back on your crazy Political Correctness what ever it might be.
So You believe the 9/11 was an inside job. The only conclusion I have come to are the following.
Agency needed more money, so they let it happend. Now the NSA gets $50 Billion not $20.
A president wanted to invade Iraq and depose Saddam. I knew that he wanted to do this and would have accomplished his goals even with out 9/11. So
he used the Excuse of that event to invade Iraq and keep the oil out of Russian hands.
Now lets get into the NWO here for a minute. I like how alot of people point to one group whether they have an official website or not. So what the
NWO was behind it. The only logical conclusion I could come to is that like any other human being, they're simply not perfect. And to facilitate
there desires to destroy America, they heard about the attack and encourage key members in certain agencies to let it happen. But even with out that
tragedy happening, they would have continued to worked through the Environmental Movement. I guess somebody would have pointed out that the solar
pannels are there to kill us or something.
I don't believe like so many fools  out there that one guy is being the boss to the rest of the world or a committee for that matter. They
don't have control over disasters, but what they do have control if any are control of what happens afterwords. I believe if you google the key
words "disaster economy" or "disaster Economics," you will come to a book that all should read but won't because the author is a loony liberal.
As for waking up. I did wake up and found out that if the tea party got it's way and got rid of SSI, then that crazy guy down the street wouldn't
be able to afford his meds and he would go crazy. Fearing that, I decided to continue to vote for the two party system. I did if for my healthcare
and safety.
I also call these people Ron Paul Supporter's and Crazy Conservatives.
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reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 03:51 AM by Silenzio
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Maybe it's just most people don't even think about these things. Or are even interested in and wont be until they start to interupt or affect their
lives.
Most people just want to live their lives and it makes them feel safer if they trust the goverment and the news.
Plus many of this stuff aren't proven and if they would be, I'm sure there will be people that just won't care if they can keep living as they
were.
I don't know about the muslim hate thing spreaded through media, maybe the thing is the only news about muslims are from terrorist attacks. (I don't
live in USA) But these things are usually peoples own opinions caused by not knowing better. If they would become friends with an person who would
later tell that he/she is a muslim they would probably think better of them.
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reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 06:12 AM by seinfeld
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Just because people see things differently than you doesnt mean they are dumb.
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