Originally posted by SaturnFX
reply to post by Wookiep
reply to post by Wookiep
I find your posts a bit disturbing. I can only assume your mind is completely shut out from anything beyond what one side of the story says. This is
not a way to progressively think.
What about what I have said is disturbing?? We havent even been on topic yet... Thanks for telling me my mind is shut down from anything.. I encourage
you to read this thread I created not even that long ago. It was quite the civil thread, and I think I was pretty open-minded.
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I am agnostic, I am if anything a practicing athiest but with my mind open to accept either highly evolved lifeforms that would appear godlike, or a
actual cosmic intelligence...both forms not needing my worship in the same way that I would need the worship of a flea on a dog 4000 miles away.
Can you point out where I said anything indicating the fact that I'm close-minded? So the fact that I think an all_out_assault on the OP (who isn't
me btw lol, I believe he's actually a very open-minded agnostic like yourself tho I've only had a few encounters with him in the past) from the very
beginning about how "Satan isn't evil" strayed off-topc?
It is with my general detatchment from religions that allows me to look at it as a story..like reading battlestar galactica really. The ability to be
completely neutral and see both sides of the argument.
well I don't recall ever disputing or trying to change your mind on that....
I do see in the story of God V Satan some basic principles.
God scorned man for attaining knowledge...satan encouraged man to gain knowledge.
When God is upset with man, he smites em, brings em to near extinction, etc...
This could lead to a looonnng discussion, but I actually agree here to a point, hell If *I* were God, this place would have been destroyed long ago..
However, w/o getting too invlolved this is pre-Christ. If the bible is a moot point, which I don't know one way or another as far as you are
concerned, then it's not even worth the debate. If you think it's a fairy tale, then it's simply a matter of you think that, and I don't.
When Satan becomes upset with man, he does pretty much nothing, or tries to help them out by offering/educating in materialism
and how do you know this as fact?? Again, I don't wish to quote scripture, but have you ever heard of the angel of light?? Do you not think there is
a reason everyone thinks that Satan is their friend? Do you think (if he exsisted) that he would just pop up and say " HI I'M SATAN!!" Or do you
think he'd be quite smarter than that??I don't dispute that Satan is smart.
God gives you a body filled with primal desires and tells you to ignore them or be damned
And we are smart enough to cast that aside and say "Damn you God!" for that.. Perhaps he's pretty smart too, and maybe we don't actually know
everything.
Satan tells you to acknowledge and embrace them and live for life verses for death
well of course!! Isn't that easier?? Again, I'm sure Satan would rather be your pal.
etc etc etc. God stands up and basically says "I am God, I am a good god, and those whom do not believe I am good and just will suffer and die in
horrible ways forever"
Haha, well yes, it would seem from scripture that he is this way, until all that suffering went to Christ in the new testament. Now, I'm NOT
PREACHING, and I'm not quoting scripture either. It's just a common thing that is either realized or not.
Satans response to this was....wtf...ya, I am going to start my own thing...good luck with that God.
Well of course... Again, Satan is everyones pal.....
You would probably be one to partake in satanic ways 1000 times before you did anything God deemed fine on a daily basis..from admiring beauty of
people, fornication be it in the mind or in the physical, keep your own money, hoard resources, etc etc...and yet say that satan (father of
materialism and pleasure) is evil in your mind. its at best hypocritical, but more due to simply willfull ignorance.
On this I'll admit you're right. That is because I am not God, nor is anyone else. Anyone who claims to be is fooling theselves. But again I'm not
going to go too deep into this cuz of course it would seem like I'm "pushing" it on you.
Finally...heaven is so hard to get into if you actually read the bible and took it literally...that its filled with about 7 people so far...hell is
where all your family, friends, loved ones, leaders, and..everyone else has gone or is going...seriously...read the bible, then attach the rules of
the bible onto anyone, yourself included. guess where your going if "its all true".
No-one knows that for sure. IT WAS quoted as being the narrow way, but that doesn't mean its SO HARD to get into. No-one is to judge who gets in and
out other than God.
Its a test meant to fail.
I think completely opposite. I think it's a test we are all ultimately meant to pass.
and finally...I wish to say, anyone with a deity religion, I deem mentally handicapped. It is a profound ignorance of the universe we live in and a
exceptionally powerful shortcut to critical thinking...all deitys...God, Satan, Allah, Opera, etc...all are the absolute same as believing in the
giant pepsi monster that gave us the great fizz of life and its bubbly wonder we live on..or just make up whatever insane chatter you can here.
mentally amusing but incredibly dumb. use lessons from religion? sure...if the story of the mudmen discovering the lost floating city of the elven
angels somehow brings forth a life lesson...then take that...chuckle at the story, but accept the wisdom behind it.
Your opinion. That's fine, but don't "deem" me mentally handicapped because I disagree with you. Those kind of statements are EXACTLY the kind of
thing that heat this up like it already has become.
Maybe when you get a chance you can check my thoughts on "religion" as well.
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[edit on 20-1-2010 by Wookiep]
[edit on 20-1-2010 by Wookiep]
