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You Make Me Feel Stupid


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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 10:36 PM by stringcheese


To send your wife an email with words you knew (or assumed) she would not understand and then inserted links to definitions was just plain rude and incredibly condescending. You flaunt your vocabulary to point out to her how "stupid" she is and the pretend not to notice that you insulted her. Please!



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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 10:55 PM by KarlG


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DO NOT feel bad for making people sound stupid.

They're just dolts for not reading and educating themselves.

People have varying levels of intelligence and you can't expect us all to be on that same level of knowledge.

in fact, I understand your OP and your words - what's so bad?

You need to find people who CAN understand you - they're not friends if they make you regret doing things, especially good things like picking up a book and hunting for knowledge.



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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 09:45 AM by AccessDenied


It was told to me once and I completely took it to heart....
"Iam not responsible for your feelings, or your feelings about my actions..only you are"
So if I feel stupid, it's not someone else's doing..it's my own.
As for speaking intelligently to others, or trying to increase their level of education or understanding on any given subject..first off, my rule is never without consent or enthusiastic curiosity at best.
Second rule..to be intelligent enough to understand that I need to explain things in a way that the other person can understand and relate to..or the knowledge is useless and easily forgotten.
Teaching others is simple..you don't try to immediately bring them up to your level...you go to theirs..and bring them up slowly.
The minute they feel.."stupid"..they have stopped listening.



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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 12:47 PM by Ben Niceknowinya


Good Day Autowrench.

I'll begin by saying you should apologize to your wife. Seriously.
You can strike a conversation with anyone for that matter, especially with your friends where they can tell you precisely how they feel......towards
whatever...right?
But your wife? That's sacred man.
Ever hear the phrase: "Don't sh*t where you eat.." ??

In a yes or no question, is it worth to you (personally) that you make her
"feel stupid" after spitting knowledge towards a particular subject?
That's not the true sign of an intellect my friend, no matter of how many books you read, or how many people you can "roast."

Half the battle of a true intellect is being a LISTENER.!

Let me tell you why........I noticed you wrote "Israel Sucks."
Now, I can understand your feelings on a "political" matter or view, but you're generalizing Israel......meaning....you're not @ an intellect level for generalizing (the subject).
Perhaps you will read a book on Israeli culture, or meet a Jewish person
that might teach you a different meaning or concept of Israeli......philosophies.....adaptations.....spiritual.....poetry...literature, you name it. .. .
I say this because I was ingnorant (when I was young) and anti-semitic even...because I based my views of Israel on a political level (like you have)....shame on me. Yep. I've changed for the better though.
And I'm not religious @ all, I should add.
I thank the "intellectual" Jewish people I met in NYC, that made me realize
that they're humans just like me and you.
There's bad & good no matter where you look.
So I opened my mind...*ahem*....intellectually. I am grateful. Truly.

One of the posters had mentioned "respect." I'm not saying you're being disrespectful towards your wife, but quite frankly, she knows you beter than any1, right?
You know her better than any1, right?
Well, it's fair to say you have failed in getting your point(s) across to the person who understands you better than anyone.
Threfore your intellectuality skills could be sharpened, considerably.
No offense.

You see, your first fallacy autowrench is "assumimg" you're smarter than someone just because of your better knowledge on the subject.

Dead wrong.


Now, I feel your pain. I get frustrated, especially when I try to prove my point(s) correctly, and no mattter how right I am (or feel I am) some people are just stubborn. Oh well. And yes....there are some that deeply sadden me on their approach (in discussion) in general...Waddaya gonna do?

In my situation, or personal belief rather, I feel just as good being proven wrong sometimes as proving some1 right.....because, yes, you can be wrong too. It's part of the learning process imo.
< You can accept that as another intellect might. True to the game.


Some people might have the personality of a medicine ball. And that's not your fault....What IS your fault, is feeling your superiority.
Not a fault....but a weakness in discussion.
Sometimes....it's worth to say: " You say why? I say why bother....."
AccessD brought up an EXCELLENT point as well.....the minute they feel stupid, chances are you've lost their interest in the way and character of your teachings, or blessings.

Ahh yes.
Can't change the world all at once.
You should know this.....
However, I *tip my hat* for your efforts to enlighten people.
*Power 2 ya*
I participate in the same actions.......and @ the end of the day, if I can enlighten some1, it's what makes all the books I've read (thousands as well) totally WORTH IT.

Never consider yourself smarter than (other) people autowrench.
(ex)Just because you *might be able tell me Cuba's history, doesn't mean you can't run into a CUBAN person who you might think is dumb (or not as intellect) because he works in a sugar factory, but yet that person can most likely can give you a more personal, more prolific, better meaning of Cuba's history with personal account & experience, that you can never "feel" ot fathom in any book, or read in any literature written, or recorded.

The other thing....or word.....I've discovered in myself when I'm intellectually involved in a converation/debate/roast is PATIENCE my friend.
( edit 2 add) --->> *tune in*

YouTube Link

www.youtube.com...

If you don't have the patience, than you'll find yourself in a more difficult circumstance trying to get your point across. Trust me.
Another sign of a true intellect is the (patience) in listening, then responding.....if you've ever been skooled on a thread by Schrodinger's Dog on this ATS (or BTS) since you've been here, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.......and he's spent the majority of his younger years DJing, boozing, and the nightlife.....how ironic hu?

See.....never underestimate anyon1.!

Back on topic. You might feel better @ the end of the day, feel smarter about yourself because you can spit' game @ someone, & you automatically feel smarter than them because (perhaps) you make them feel dumbed down. That's not being an intellect, because, really, what have you achieved? Zilch.
If you want to be more an intellect, you should pick your battles more carefully and get into a discussion with some1 that CHALLENGES you.
Period.
When you feel you have more to learn on a subject(s), which in my honest opinion there's always more to learn on any subject, then that's when you can be on an intellect level with someone. Or any1 for that matter.
Subjects are infinite for the most part.
AND indulge in some cookies & chocolates or lotsa bourbon as your reward, because you feel better about yourself......that's entirely up to you.

Ohhh, and your wife...Yes. Maybe you did such a poor job trying to explain it to her, and that's why you made her feel dumb.
Again, you know her better than any1 on this planet, so if you got your point across "succesfully" perhaps she would've come home from work (or whatever) feeling like she learned something (educational) from you because you were so eloquent, and graceful in explaining it to her, and getting your point across. Feel me?

So, no offense.....but you're not quite the intellect you think you are.
I mean that in a respectful, truthful way autowrench....& looking forward in participating in discussions with you in the future. *cheers*

Alla prossima.



[edit on 22-6-2009 by Ben Niceknowinya]



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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 11:57 AM by snowflake_obsidian


It is great that you have been able to educate yourself and there is no problem with exhibiting your intellegence to your friends and people around you.

The deal with your common law wife, in my opinion the action of actually putting a link for her to look up your words was a whole different deal. The problem with that action is that you put yourself in a position of looking boastful or smug. If she had any questions about your words she could've asked you or looked them up herself.

That was the only action you described in your post that I found would've been insulting.



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