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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:02 PM by blupblup
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Originally posted by Spiderj
Yeah I was replying to posts in general so most of those were not directed at you but at thread readers in general.
My mistake, i apologize.
Say someone wanted to start a thread on tantra and felt it appropriate to post nude photos, that in fact were of people performing a tantric act...the
argument could be made that this is being posted purely for information and to help get the point accross.
spiderj
You could probably do this tastefully and just show a "behind" shot/sketch, rather than side on,not revealing any genitalia.
But I'm just being picky....
thanks Mods for coming out in numbers to help me understand, i appreciate the replies.
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:08 PM by Spiderj
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You could probably do this tastefully and just show a "behind" shot/sketch, rather than side on,not revealing any genitalia.
But I'm just being picky....
You're killing me
And you know the answer would be no
spiderj
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:12 PM by blupblup
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Ah well... worth a shot.
I have an answer for everything (as you guys probably know  ) so i will thank you again and refrain from pestering you further... (until i think
of a better angle)
Cheers
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 08:48 PM by orgyofthedead
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'A picture speaks a thousand words'
Quote from early Emperor of the Xia Dynasty in China about 4,000 years ago.
"see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"
from a 17th century pictorial maxim in Japan
# Early associations of the three monkeys with the fearsome six-armed deity Vajrakilaya link the proverb to the teaching of Buddhism that if we do
not hear, see or talk evil, we ourselves shall be spared all evil. This may be considered similar to the English proverb "Speak of the Devil - and
the devil appears."
# Others believe the message is that a person who is not exposed to evil (through sight or sound) will not reflect that evil in their own speech and
actions.
# Today "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" is commonly used to describe someone who doesn't want to be involved in a situation, or someone
willfully turning a blind eye to the immorality of an act in which they are
involved source
Not trying to be a pain in the you know what and last ill say on the matter(dont want to get the ban hammer). Plus i do understand where your coming
from and the last thing i want to see on this site is it turn into some other sites (that i wont mention). But i hope that this isnt a blanket ban and
in certain situations with a mods approval first this could be reviewed.Lets say if the tortured Iraqi prisoners photos were leaked here thus stopping
a crime and giving the site world attention. Or if irrefutable UFO/alien footage was available but also contained graphic images, would these still
not be allowed?
2cents.
edit spelling
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:07 PM by Badge01
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:41 PM by Rren
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I call dibs on the hot blonde in the middle!
To everyone else whom still has concerns over the policy:
It seems if you have a graphic picture that you feel belongs in your post you simply have to link to it with a *warning graphic picture of X* instead
of hosting it and putting the pic in your post where anyone reading the thread will see it all unawares. Or, if you're still unsure, just send it to
the mods via the complaints/suggestions button in your membercenter (I believe that's where it is) and ask for permission*.
*note: if memory serves you need to include your screenname if you want a reply, as I believe all complaints/suggestions are submitted to the
mods-only forum anonymously.
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 11:11 PM by orgyofthedead
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good im now happy  , er just have to find the hot alien babe and film me giving her some good loving
now that should't be to difficult..... should it?
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 11:28 PM by AllTiedTogether
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Salutations,
While I understand and fully agree with this policy I wonder why you, meaning ATS, doe not have to conform to this. I speak in reference to the
advertisement that is currently flashing on the majority of the threads I bring up for the mirrorsmovie .
This advertisement is extremely graphic and not at all what I would classify as family orientated. Should ATS not think about having this removed?
Your income surely can't outweigh your values and your policy.
I eagerly await your response.
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 11:34 PM by Badge01
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Hmm, lovin'? I might have to question your taste. (I hear they taste like chicken).
Just make sure if it happens you squint and look out of the corner of your eye to makes sure they aren't using a 'glamour' on you. (  )
Revealed below, the 'real' Heidi?
But to stay on topic - if you find what you think is a logical justification run it by the Mods and we'll try to vet it.  To the poster
above, on the Mirrors Movie - I watched the Trailer and saw no graphic image.
Mirrors with Kiefer Sutherland
If it's a movie (with fake horror or blood and the trailer's on prime-time TV, how bad could it be?) then you have to hit the 'start' button,
right? Thus, it's not ATS' fault, I'd think.
However, post your objection to 'SkepticOverlord's Ad Hitlist'
and he will review it.
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 11:41 PM by TH3ON3
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Oh come on man, that guy missing his arm was obviously cgi. And so were all the mangled bodies and body parts lying around in the ketchup.
You can't show real life horror images, but you can show horror images that look like real life in say horror movies right?
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 11:53 PM by orgyofthedead
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Ha Ha yeah i may just retract what i said (but surely in that infinite cosmos there must be some fit ones?no?*gulp*
Back on topic what AllTiedTogether just said i mean i scroll up and ...... wow just wow  , now that is some gory graphic stuff. i mean its even
advertising the uncut version, i mean i know its fake but little kids might not   .
so does this mean if we slip you some cash you'll look the other way.
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:00 AM by Stormdancer777
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I hate violence and agree that pictures should not be posted,
but what about that horrible ad, of the movie mirrors, every time I sign on I have to watch this guy slit his throat.
I know, I know it is just a movie.
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:05 AM by badgerprints
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I hate violence and agree that pictures should not be posted,
but what about that horrible ad, of the movie mirrors, every time I sign on I have to watch this guy slit his throat.
I know, I know it is just a movie.
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Yep Yep Yep
Getting fed up with that advert.
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:10 AM by AllTiedTogether
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Originally posted by jam321
Appreciate that. Sometimes my kids are looking over my shoulders without me knowing and I don't want them to see pics like that.
Now I'm wondering how Jam's kids would react to the Mirror movie advertisement that is on the right of the screen. I know I mentioned it but all I
got was a reply from the OP via U2U saying I should report that link here.
Why did they remind us? Why is it that alot of the posts have comments about the "throat"? Could it be unconsious manipulation? Looks like the
"pot and kettle" thing is going on. ATS seems to be doing a lot more of this type of thing lately.
Guess we'll see what happens. I can't ALERT the mods with the orig OP. I think this needs to be addressed now if you want this to be taken
seriously ATS.
Can I post a picture I took of the Ad? It shows the guys throat being slit... should be OK to post if you can run the ad right?
This is not your "Worst Ads Ever! thread idea by SO.... this is beyond and it should not have to be dealt with in that manner.
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:18 AM by Badge01
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Did you or did you not get an almost IMMEDIATE acknowledgement from the Mods. (Me)
How can we do more that that?
Be fair.
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:27 AM by Rren
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Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
Guess we'll see what happens. I can't ALERT the mods with the orig OP. I think this needs to be addressed now if you want this to be taken
seriously ATS.
Can I post a picture I took of the Ad? It shows the guys throat being slit... should be OK to post if you can run the ad right?
This is not your "Worst Ads Ever! thread idea by SO.... this is beyond and it should not have to be dealt with in that manner.
For what it's worth Skeptic may just be busy at the moment. Also, again for what it's worth, every offending ad that has been brought to his
attention has been removed, afaik. The offending ads are usually just too noisy and/or have seizure inducing flashing. Many pages ago, in the
'SO's Worst Ads Hitlist,' people were complaining about a gory ad for a t.v. show's new DVD collection (Autopsy it may have been called?) and SO
asked for a screenshot or a source link(?) so that he could find where it was coming from and eliminate it. As several mods already seem to be aware
of it it most likely isn't necessary to post the info. So I'd advice patience... I'm sure he'll get this one too. (They don't just hand out
those super-hero tights he likes to wear to any old schmuck....  )
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:42 AM by AllTiedTogether
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Originally posted by Badge01
reply to post by AllTiedTogether
Did you or did you not get an almost IMMEDIATE acknowledgement from the Mods. (Me)
How can we do more that that?
Be fair.
Acknowledged that I did in fact receive an immediate response. And I also do acknowledge that you cannot decide as it is the HIGHER UPS who decide...
but...
This movie AD has been mentioned before, its not the first time. and it appears that you had complaints about this with a the prior mirror movie...
Does ATS not see what the ad will be?? Maybe you should look before you accept a link.... Can we expect links to SEX and S&M soon too? Not too far
fetched is it?? If this ad is playing on this thread that says....
You will not use images, avatars or link to domains that contain GORE, MUTILATION
, pornography or illegal(2e) content. Doing so will result in removal of your post(s) and IMMEDIATE termination of your account. Please refrain
from posting images that may be upsetting to sensitive members - we are a family-friendly site after all.
There seems to be alot of staff on this thread... maybe one can have this looked at sooner than later....
Can you do more? You should have seen this coming ATS. And I'm sure you did and are getting what you expected. So, how is it written up... how
does this scenario play out....
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 12:54 AM by Gemwolf
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A very good point, and a valid one. We don't have direct control over which ad banners appear and what not. (SkepticOverlord has some degree of
control - but it's not that he sits and decides which banner goes with which thread. There's some complicated software that decides. SO's control
is more or less "after the fact" as I understand it.) And you have every right to say "Hey, this ad is against the T&C! What's up with that?"
Add your thoughts to the thread pointed out above, and your concerns will be addressed. If you don't get a direct response from SO, it doesn't mean
that he didn't take note. You can also post a complaint from your MemCenter. Either way SO will see your concern. Remember a lot of people want his
attention, and sadly he simply cannot give each and every person the personal attention of a U2U.
Most of us don't even notice which banner ads comes and goes, but I can assure you that SO knows and makes sure that there's a quality control. The
ad may be gone in a day or two... Did it get bumped from the add-list by the next generation of ads, or did SO remove it? We'll never know.
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:05 AM by Gemwolf
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Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
This movie AD has been mentioned before, its not the first time. and it appears that you had complaints about this with a the prior mirror
movie...
Please point out where it has been mentioned before, because it's important for us to see where the communication gaps are.
Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
Does ATS not see what the ad will be?? Maybe you should look before you accept a link.... Can we expect links to SEX and S&M soon too? Not too far
fetched is it?? If this ad is playing on this thread that says.......
No. SO will be able to explain how the ads system works. I don't know all the technical intricacies, so an answer from me may only be half-right. The
bottom line is, there are certain ad companies we accept ads from. There may be thousands (hundreds of thousands) of different banners/ads, and it
would be ridiculous to go through all of them. We use the particular ad companies (or whatever they're called) because their ads don't conflict with
our T&C. If an ad pops up that conflicts with our T&C, they are likely to be kicked from our "accepted" list.
Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
There seems to be alot of staff on this thread... maybe one can have this looked at sooner than later....
SkepticOverlord, and only SO has control over the ads. There is nothing any of the other staff can do - other than let SO know about the problem.
Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
Can you do more? You should have seen this coming ATS. And I'm sure you did and are getting what you expected. So, how is it written up... how
does this scenario play out....
That's a very accusatory tone? Tell me is the ad really your issue, or is there an underlying issue?
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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:14 AM by AllTiedTogether
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OK so nobody except SO can pull an AD off the website temp until he gets to work? So if someone posts some SNUFF material on a post and its reported
is this the type of response we should expect? You have people being affected here... look at the comments and decide whether they are influenced
by this GORY ad...
I agree that war is atrocious...but shoving it down peoples throats isn't a valid answer...in my opinion.
My point is that there is no point cramming the images down the throats of people who will do nothing.
My point is that there is no point cramming the images down the throats of people who will do nothing.
and more obvious
but what about that horrible ad, of the movie mirrors, every time I sign on I have to watch this guy slit his throat.
Can you not see that the AD is having an effect on people? Sound the alarm and wake up the captain. Surely someone within your current management
can make an ethical sound business decision.
Anyone?
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