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reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 01:13 AM by Anonymous ATS


You underestimate the Chinese.... Lu Bu for one, Guan Yu, Zhou Yun, Xiahou Dun, Nan Ging... too many heroes to name.

Whilst the Greeks were once great, they lsot their greatness however after Judeo Chistian times. They had wisdom up till that period, after that they diminished.

The Romans, well they were strong till they became to large with too weak Emperors.

Don't forget the Mongols only beat China because China itself was fighting among itself, also don't forget the Sima Yi and the Jin.

Every nation who at one point was a superpower is no more, Babylon, Egypt, Greek, Macedon, Roman, Mongols etc....

Even mighty Russian Empire under the Tzars then as the USSR under Soviet leaders are now jsut a puny Russian Federation. Whilst China is still strong, from Ancient to Modern times.



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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:59 AM by Anonymous ATS


I read some posts stating that GW Bush Jr. is the greatest warrior/leader of all time. However, it is not so much as a joke as it is a possibility. He was the commander in chief of the US forces, arguably the most dominant force in history (boasting more nuclear and specialty weapons than all other nations combined). His war in Iraq has had a mere 4200 casualties thus far, which is by far fewer casualties than most wars (america lost 5000 men on one day in WWII). Nobody can be sure, but estimates project about 200,000 terrorist deaths with minimal collateral damage. Though the war is not popular, no one can say it isnt a successful military action against an un-specific enemy.



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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 08:47 PM by Wally Conley


In my opinion, there are two people who get my vote. Sun Tzu and Carl von Clausewitz. Both wrote manuals that have been read for centuries, and will continue to be read for centuries to come. Many great generals have purt their writings into action from Sun Tzu himself to the up and coming Generals on todays 21st Century battlefields.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 05:26 AM by Astyanax


Old Boney, of course

But first, a few historical rectifications.


Originally posted by Gazrok
That's like assuming Britain's "Indian armies" were Indians.

For the most part, and most of the time, they were.


The army of the British East India Company recruited primarily from Muslims in the Bengal Presidency (which consisted of Bengal, Bihar and Uttar Pradesh), and high caste Hindus recruited primarily from the rural plains of Oudh. These troops had been predominant in the Indian Mutiny [of 1857] allegedly due to crass and insensitive treatment by British officers evident in the rush to reinstate the Mughal king Bahadur Shah II at Delhi.

Post-Mutiny recruitment switched to what the British called the "martial races," particularly Rajputs, Sikhs, Gurkhas, Pashtuns, Garhwalis, Mohyals, and Dogras. Jats and Balochis also provided many soldiers.

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Originally posted by cassini
Do generals count as great warriors? If they do Xenophon the greek gets my vote. His exploits can be read in The Persian Expedition...

...which he wrote himself. Not that this is an automatic disqualification; Caesar's Gallic Wars is generally reckoned pretty hot stuff. Xenophon isn't. Historians have established that his works were self-servingly distorted and suffered badly from having been written many years after the events they describe, when Xenophon was an old man. Great reading, though. Real Boys' Own stuff.


Originally posted by Illmatic67
you still havent told me where I'm wrong about Napolean.

Well, you could get his name right, for a start: it's Napoleon, as in Bonaparte.

Further information, in condensed form, can be found in this excellent biographical summary.

If you want the full story, you'll find all you could wish for here.

If the term 'warrior' means 'one who makes war', Napoleon Bonaparte was without question the greatest and most successful warrior of the last millennium. He took on all the Great Powers of Europe at once and trounced the lot of them. Only the Russian winter was too much for him; and his eclipse on Elba weakened France and allowed her enemies to regroup, leading to his final defeat by Wellington and Blucher.

Throughout his career, his strategy and tactics were unrivalled, leaving his enemies confused and off-balance. His exploits helped inspire the greatest military textbook of all time, Clausewitz's On War and Beethoven's first great symphony. Military historians generally acknowledge his pre-eminence among warriors since Alexander.

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If anyone was to ask me who to name the greatest warrior after Napoleon, I might say Ho Chi Minh. He did not invent guerrilla warfare but perfected it. He kicked the world's largest military power out of his country and laid the foundations of a stable and increasingly prosperous modern state. Ho, in a sense, completed the reinvention of warfare for the third millennium.

Another great was Marshal Zhukov; no other Allied (or Axis) general of the Second World War could hold a candle to him.

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