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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 04:15 PM by rawsom
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I do see what you are talking about. Four years of dating with a psychopath hansn't ended dating yet. Problem is that these diagnoses are almost
exclusively given for men, although _all_ medical literature says that there are women like that as well.
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 04:23 PM by rawsom
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Originally posted by Malynn
And what does that mean? Are you into Eugenics or something? Lots of people come from really messed-up families and turn-out just fine. In fact, my
parents were HORRIBLE parents and yet I've never been arrested, never had a speeding ticket, never been divorced, never got pregnant young (in fact
I'm never having children), got good grades in school, hell I don't think I was ever even grounded. As Dumbledore said:

You can take all arguments you want but statistics show that these things do affect children. Speeding tickets are a normal thing, divorcing is a
normal thing, getting pregnant when young is also normal. How in that case it is no wonder that somebody gets good grades et cetera? What we are
talking about here are completely irrational fights among partners (husband and wife) that leads to a child who is extremely ***ked up.
That's right, I just quoted a fictional character from Harry Potter. All that aside you paint your former daughter-in-law as a really crappy person.
What else can we expect really? I'm sure you're incapable of seeing your son as having any fault in the dissolution of his marriage.

So what? Harry potter in my opinion sucks anyway. I'm not that certain about seeing own son as innocent, because mothers tend to know these things.
Did not the tone of message tell you anything? You see no insight in it but merely the arguments of your own good that come from people who simply
look at what happened and base their fault on those who did not have a chance to realize an outcome?
You replied to this thread based on your son's personal experiences and bad choices (he agreed to marry her; so if by some stretch she really IS as
evil as you say then it's his own damn fault) to validate the OP's totally flawed logic after he categorically demonized your own sex? Throwing the
baby out with the bathwater... 
So what if he agreed to marry her? You agreed to post here, although you are clearly wrong as you have no other tone in your posts but the blame that
you bring on people who just choose something and encounter being falsifyed on blame.
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:35 PM by chrhenn32
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Thank you...You hit the nail on the head as far as what I have been trying to say. I am not good with words and try to explain things but sometimes I
end up ranting and raving and falling off of topic as far as trying to explain. The experiences your son went through is exactly how I have witnessed
and seen with my own eyes. People here say it is a two sided coin or it takes two to tangle. I wish it were so. I wanted men to read to better
protect themselves in case they fall into the trap your son fell into. Thanks for sharing with me and sorry your son had to go through that.
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:42 PM by chrhenn32
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Fair enough. By the way, my anger towards women have nothing to do with your 'not getting laid' statement. Your silliness to jump somewhat to that
conclusion tells me you didn't read anything at all. Damn, in this day and age as women are anybody can get laid. When a woman approaches me I
shove them away because I can seen deep down they are players. Again I am being direct and honest and don't mean to direct this towards the very few
that are special and different from the rest.
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:47 PM by chrhenn32
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Don't forget impulsive, backstabbing, deceitful, and selfish. In their state of mind it is me, me, me, me and yet when the man asks for something it
is damned in their eyes.
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:50 PM by chrhenn32
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Your right about the choices we make, but remember that some men are ripe for the taking as some women quote. Some men are desperate while others are
naive. It is the unfair practices that are taking place and the abusiveness that comes with it. Take that for account with the laws of this country
and us men have nothing to turn too. You apparently don't read into things real well do you?
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:56 PM by chrhenn32
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You seem to be the only one that gets it and I thank you for sharing your insight. Never can I talk with somebody who never has been divorced. Nope,
its the selfish attitudes toward the parent that think they are the only ones that are important. Nah, kids don't know any better. They will soon
forget and everything will be merry! (little does the parent know how dumb they are to let their kids suffer over their own stupidity and
selfishness).
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 07:59 PM by OzWeatherman
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Originally posted by chrhenn32
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Your right about the choices we make, but remember that some men are ripe for the taking as some women quote. Some men are desperate while others are
naive. It is the unfair practices that are taking place and the abusiveness that comes with it. Take that for account with the laws of this country
and us men have nothing to turn too. You apparently don't read into things real well do you? 
Hey it goes both ways.....some women are ripe for the taking too and let their men cheat, lie, abuse them, yet still stay with them and worship the
ground they walk on.
You shouldnt single out them taking advantage of us when we do it to, its not about the sex....its about the person
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 08:01 PM by chrhenn32
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Your poor son is many who are victimized when trying to lead a life of a normal familyhood. The example you explain is the one I have seen so many
times. When Tom committed suicide, she had no remorse of what she did. She also did the bar scenes and did wild crazy things. 'I am woman hear me
roar' as her kids had to loose a father who never got to see him. By the way, right after the suicide she meant somebody else so the kiddies get to
have a new father yeay!!!
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 08:11 PM by chrhenn32
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Thank you for sharing. I am sorry she treated you like that. I have done much of my homework and see that you are very very not alone in this
situation. It is getting much worse here too in the midwest. I am glad you didn't hurt yourself like a few of my friends did over this matter.
Most women are just selfish and think of themselves. You can try and try to reason with them but it is good just to let it go because that is in
their nature. I hope you take the time to read the article I posted about 'turning doormats into men' which is how to better protect yourself
before she pulls her stunt. Again thank you for sharing.
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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 02:53 AM by chrhenn32
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I have to say I don't hate women. I don't want to get you women wrong in thinking I am going to turn into some serial killer wiping out every women
species I could find. I think I know what the problem is and thanks to the replies I think I know whats wrong with me. A lot stems to society and
the treatment we get from it. The system is not fair towards men and it stereotypes us so much that I sometimes feel guilty that I am even a guy.
The friends I talk about (Tom for instance) is some of the examples about unfair treatment from society and labeling we get so much. Someday I hope
to start a revolution for the guys about fair treatment and equal rights when it comes to divorces and abuse from women.
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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 12:46 PM by rawsom
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No he is not right about "it was his choice". If we grant that argument the state of being correct, we also grant total immunity to whoever does
wrong to others by cheating, deceiving or through manipulation. With certain values those things are wrong and should not be tolerated. Anybody can
fal into a trap, and for that reason it has been realized that to become deceived has nothing to do with own fault, but faults of values in deceiver
him/herself.
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reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 04:44 PM by nerbot
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All men are bastards and heros and all women are whores and angels.
Knowing which to trust, when and why is the tricky part.
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