God is fake!

reply to post by whitesatan

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So it is your opinion that God doesn't exist, not fact.... correct?
I'll say it too. It's my opinion that God is real, not fact. I can agree to disagree with you on those terms. God bless you on your journey and may I suggest that if you ever do find God, don't do it through a catholic church for it is the church that plagued christianity with pagan/false teachings. I would suggest the United Church of God.

Locoman8

Your source is wikipedia even after what happened with it last year. OK that is your choice. You probably are the one who wrote it though. No proof you did or didn't at this point.

How can I believe something that came from a source that has so much false information on the site.

My accusation came out of the text books which I learned from in school. So your saying that books approved by the government to teach us are false and made up.

and yet i'm a tool. If you are blown up(murdered) then your life has been destroyed. Don't play games with me. They can mean the same thing.

Locoman8

You are very loco.

I think we should just agree to disagree because you are just to stubborn to learn the truth.



Look I can do that to.

It is in my opinion God is fake based on the facts God can't be proven to be real.

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Okay, I was starting to play nice but I see you can't let it go. Wikipedia gave sources for research and I wouldn't trust government funded popsicles if they told me they would last forever. True, there was an Ice Age which killed off some animals, but it didn't kill Dinosaurs because dinosaurs were extinct already by that time.

Blown up can mean destroyed but destroyed can be taken in a number of ways. Stabbing is destroying, burning is destroying, breaking is destroying. My point is, when I said "destroyed" I didn't mean "blown up". I meant, "life was destroyed." It's a stupid argument and you know damn well where I was getting at. You're just trying to save face at this point. Do you want another source other than wikipedia?


Here is a snippet from Scholastic... your government funded text book resource:

"Adapted from Dinosaurs: The Very Latest Information and Hands-On Activities From the Museum of the Rockies, by Liza Charlesworth and Bonnie Sachatello-Sawyer. A Scholastic Professional Book.

The last dinosaurs died approximately 65 million years ago. Although the cause of their extinction is still a mystery, climatic change, diseases, changing plant communities, and geologic events could all have played a role.

Lately, dinosaur extinction theories have been the subject of much debate and controversy. A recent explanation, supported by many scientists, suggests that dinosaurs died out soon after a huge meteorite crashed to Earth near the Gulf of Mexico. A giant meteorite, they reason, could have landed with an impact that kicked up enough dust and debris to block out sunlight for a long time — leading to a deadly chain of events. Without the sun, all the plants died; without the plants, all the plant-eaters died; and without the plant-eaters, all the meat-eaters died. Sounds reasonable. But there is one problem with this theory: Paleontologists have not yet been able to find dinosaur skeletons in rocks dating to the period of impact. Some evidence even seems to indicate that all the dinosaurs had died before the meteorite hit.

What is the answer? As paleontologists search for clues to support their theories, they agree to disagree.

Where Did All The Dinos Go? Some Leading Theories:


A big meteorite crashed into Earth, changing the climatic conditions so dramatically that dinosaurs could not survive.

Ash and gas spewing from volcanoes suffocated many of the dinosaurs.

Diseases wiped out entire populations of dinosaurs.

Food chain imbalances lead to the starvation of the dinosaurs."


So you see, there are a number of theories but none saying the earth froze. If the earth did freeze, it's because of the climate change caused by the dust from the meteor, which still leads to the conclusion that they died from a meteor/comet. I'm done man. You find stupid things like problems with wikipedia. I'm sure there's a problem with scholastic too huh? Heed your own advice and lets agree to disagree.

You knew what I meant by blew up. Many things can mean destroyed and that is what I was getting at.

"Although the cause of their extinction is still a mystery"

It is still a mystery but they teach the Ice Age killed the dinosaurs. Not that satan destroyed the earth because there is to much controversy. You can't teach something that has been, is, and will be disputed a lot.

Whether the person has sources or not on wikipedia doesn't mean that he is right. If he graduated from harvard and was number one in his class and studies what he is talking about, then I would believe his posting on wikipedia.

"If the earth did freeze, it's because of the climate change caused by the dust from the meteor, which still leads to the conclusion that they died from a meteor/comet."

I think we have established that a meteor has cause the Ice Age. It still doesn't prove that Satan cause the dinosaurs to die. It will most likely never be proven.

"You find stupid things like problems with wikipedia. I'm sure there's a problem with scholastic too huh?"

There is no problem with scholastic. They teach kids and those kids become very bright and become the government. The government may not be so bright all of the time but they don't play around with kids futures.

Take a look at this website. This is why I don't trust wikipedia.
arstechnica.com...

I gave the advice agree to disagree. You don't seem to want to follow it. I am going to agree to disagree. Do whatever the hell you want. I don't care. Just don't say I'm not following my advice. I am.



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Well congratulations on giving up. The Ice Age happened when the first mammals were on the planet. Dinosaurs were already extinct by that time. It's common knowledge. I'm done with this thread. I can agree to disagree with you because you make no sense. One more thing... do something about that sand that's in your vagina or take a midol or something. How about a new hair style?

I have better things to do then play he said/she said with some cranky PMSing bitch.

You are the weakest link.... goodbye.

Click here for more information.

Well your right about the personal attack part, so I'm sorry for doing that, please forgive me.


Lol, you can't be serious right? We're talking about Ancient Text, not Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings or Steven Kings works. We're talking about people who are writing about God, God Himself did not right anything at all in the Bible, people who experienced God wrote about what they had experienced. Some things like the book of Genesis are stories about how the earth came into existance, something God probably told people. You should read the Book of Enoch or 1Enoch, it's pretty interesting to say the least.


On the contrary, peace is not always the opposite of war, if you look you see that there is no other moral mentions in the text. The Oposite of peace can be, calamity, chaos, noise, strife and many others that I can't think of, peace is not specific to morality, that is an American language judgment and you must understand these text are not written in english, but in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Chaldean, different words mean different things to these ancient peoples and only by looking in other text can we come up with a proper gage of inference to understand them some times, I research many ancient text to learn, not just about spiritual matters, but many things, so when I read something I look all around the text to find a good inference gage.


When sin entered the world it brought about many bad things (diesease, death, destruction ect.) and Satan is the God of this world since we sinned. In the Old Law, God did not have grace for us, we had to earn it, but God's plan was to bring us a Saviour (Yeshua) so we can have grace and salvation, God no longer punishes us in that manner as He did in the Old Law.



I am niether accepting or denying anything, I am explaining, I have a great deal of knowledge on this subject.



Agreed, but can you refresh me about what you wrote? I'm a little confused.



Amen brotha.

whitesatan
I never admitted defeat, simply because you have not defeated me, you can't you never even through a contact punch.

I find it funny that you critisized my grammer, my mom was reading over my should and was laughing at your terrible spelling and grammar.

I thought I'd go ahead and jump back in to respond to something you said that is an out right lie about me, you said that I called myself a catholic. I am incredibly offened by that. I am no catholic and I dare you to quote me saying that I am one, you can't cause there isn't one.

Further more, I don't have to go to church to be with God, I am with Him right now, I have His guidance in my life, I have a personal relationship with Him, I don't have to go to church to be with God, He is with me always. You ahouls really try to get to know Him, He's a great guy. I have no alliegence to a church, my alliegence is with my God, I am the church, so are many other Christians, the church is not a building where people gather together and worship God, it is the people themselves.

I noticed you put me on your foe list, but honestly I am your best friend right now and you don't even know it, yet.

God Bless,

-Jimmy

I never said that you admitted defeat. That would be called a lie. I simply said you should admit defeat.

Tell me how to through a punch to think I can.

I can throw a punch but you are to far away and I don't feel like going all that way just to knock you out.

When did I criticize your grammar. I don't remember Correct me if I'm wrong but you better have proof.

Exactly there is no quote that said I called you catholic. So don't make false accusations.

I am not going to waste my time believing in something that isn't there. Neither should you. You must not believe in God if you can't take an hour out of your life to go to church. If he is with you then you should be nice enough to show reverence to be with him a =n hour every week.

You are not my friend. You never will be. You make false accusations about someone you don't know. You have no sense and will probably never have any sense or logic. I don't allow people to be my friends when they are @$$ holes.

I am agreeing to disagree because this argument is obviously over. You are to stubborn to look at the facts and grasp them. When you decide that you would like to admit defeat let me know.

I feel truely sorry for you. You have been lied to by the church. Pray to whoever the hell you want to. Probably will do no Good since there is no one to answer your prayers.

Oh yes, yes you did, whiteliar. You have not edited this post yet.





Ask and ye shall recieve...



And my vocabulary LOL...





Must I really go through the trouble of quoting myself?
I never said "you called me a catholic" I said you said I called myself a catholic.
I put it in bold so you can see it, I did not edit that post, it's on page 7 btw.



Which was a response to this...
(point words bolden)




Well I don't know what a "=n hour" is, but I take hours out of my day every day to be with Him, I 1Up you buddy.



Oh, but like I said, I am your best friend, you just don't know it, yet.



Actually, you had your butt handed to you, you are starting to see that your argument has been defeated.



Lol, thanks for giving me permission to do something I do all the time, I have been lied to in church though, that much is true, it's one of the reasons I don't go, plus I found the truth by looking for it myself.

God Bless,

-Jimmy

First of all I didn't criticize your grammar. I said you sound dumber than the person you are falsely accusing when your sentence structure is weak. You can not look dumber than the person you criticize it makes you look bad.

"I have been lied to in church though, that much is true"

The church basically agrees to every thing you have tried to prove. So you have once again proven the point that God can not be proven to be real or un real but an intelligent man would know what to believe.

""Announcer - And JimmyJackBlack with the assist""

I have not admitted defeat. I will never do so because I have made my point. You are to stubborn to believe so.

"an hour"
[snip]

I have simply agreed to disagree because you are to stubborn to look at the truth. Why do you deserve the truth? At this point in time you don't. This argument was over before it started.

You feel sorry for yourself all th time praying to a God that won't do anything. OK if you say so.

So you go to church every day to be with him. Thought you said you didn't go to church. Your 1 up is now a 15 down.

My argument has not been defeated. I am just tired of arguing with someone who is to stubborn to see the real truth.

You will never be my friend. You are a stubborn SOB. When you open your eyes and see the truth there might be a very slim chance for a friendship. Oh I see know. You will be my friend. So you admit defeat. Am i correct if not so then you will never be my friend.

I am agreeing to disagree. My butt has not been handed to me. Yours on the other hand was handed to you the first time you posted.

We will never get an answer. We will never know the truth. But we can make educated guess about what happened by using the facts that we have discovered. I suggest you do so. It would ake your life a whole heck of a lot easier.

In enlightment of BFMV, Here are "4 Words to Choke Upon".

Victory is Mine Now!

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reply to post by whitesatan

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I don't have to go to church to find God re-re.
I proved that you have lied, watcha think about that?

-Jimmy

reply to post by whitesatan

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What if God is Earth?

What if the bible has only been translated into most know languages for the simple reason to teach later generations how to deal with the earth we live on?
With the thought of man’s make up of 75% water 25% land such has the earth, but the earth at its size can fix itself with the removal of wildlife and beast living on it with the simple act of flooding, earthquake, plague (most man caused), freezing, thawing, shifting, etc.
Have we focused on petty needs of few (the elite) and not all (the rest of us) and not the growth of understanding, can’t we at least provide renewable energy source and solid food supply without striping the earth of the core minerals it holds (would continue to draw plasma/blood from you aging/dying body) ?

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Can you be sure that oil is not a renewable fuel resource?
What if there are comets and moons made out of the exact same thing we pump out of the ground as oil?
How do we strip the earth? Are we dragging off materials to another planet and leaving ours bare?
My God is not a chunk of material spinning around under gravitational influences.
My God made us in His own image and wants us to fill the earth.
We may or may not be doing a good job of it, and taking care of things.
If we are doing bad things, it is not so much the fault of the common people, but the masters and elite of the world who actually want to destroy civilizations.

reply to post by whitesatan

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Looks like you're already in trouble with the moderators of the thread. Your bts points dropped off the face of the earth. As for your idea of church... there is nothing in the Bible telling me that I have to sit in a building to listen to a hypocrite speak the word of God when he doesn't abide by it. Like jimmy said, the Church is the body of people that follow Christ, not a building. If jimmy worships God in his own time with his own people, then he is technically at church because the bible even said that the church is a body of people and that every person is his own church. The Old testament even says that your body is a Temple of God and to take care of it. Your church argument is weak so don't even go there.

reply to post by whitesatan

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Well, you bring up some interesting thoughts. I can see that you are amongst the so many who confuse God with religion and God with the religious views of the Bible. Here is what I have to say:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by whitesatan

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Its been said that when one ponders if there is God, that God has already found you.

For you to ponder is to witness the pendulum of thought.

Its a torrid debate that a person fights within ones own self.

Your journey is for your soul understanding...

Soley

Peace

Locoman8.

Are you retarded?

Points don't go down because of beliefs they go down because of stuff like this below.

You are a #ing retard. Go # of you sorry excuse for a son of a bitch.

So # off!

#, #ity, #, #,#.

What now retard.