reply to post by InterestedObserver
I'd appreciate if you wouldn't use quotes to give the impression that I said something that I very much did not write.
I accept that I was not clear enough in explaining how you clearly implied that your teaching is above Christ's. Sorry, I apologise. Second
attempt.
You said:
There's no possible way to change the minds of the fundamentalists unless Jesus himself came down to Earth and told them the true
Way.
Fundamentalists by definition accept and teach all that Jesus taught. Yet you desire to change their minds, plus you assert that Jesus, on revealing
himself now, would: rebuke those who accept and follow his already extant teaching, contradict it, and tell them to follow yours instead!
I don't believe you realised that was the implication, I assume you hadn't thought through what you were saying.
Yet perhaps not. You went on to say:
I did claim that the bible, after 2000 years of being handed down and handed down, translated and
retranslated, is definitely going to have edits that were made to reflect the times, or the wishes, or the feelings, of people in positions of power
(such as in the Catholic Church).
What you are suggesting is that the Bible needs to be changed, as its plain teaching on the sinfulness of all sexual relations outside lifelong
male-female marriage doesn't accord with your modern views. Don't try and deny it - its clear from your own words that you have such an agenda.
I quote you again:
I seriously believe that Christianity is in need of some serious reform.
Clearly it needs your 'wisdom'; the teaching of the prophets, apostles and the very Son of God somehow falls short. I know you are not alone in such
beliefs. There are many who call themselves 'Christian liberals' and love the patter of the applause of respectable intellectual society that comes
from questioning the authority of what the Bible says.
As I have already shown, Christ exposed the liberals of his day, the Sadducees, and the intellectual nit-pickers of the day, the Pharisees, to open
ridicule and the severest warnings in his teaching. Anyone who wants to see an example only need read Matthew chapter 23.
Even then he added a note of tender mercy, inviting a change of heart yet again. Likewise I am not against you. I challenge you not to hide behind the
wall of authors you look up to. When they reject the words God gave the authors of Scripture they reject Him. Jesus said: "The one who rejects me and
doesn't accept my sayings has this as his judge: the word I have spoken will judge him on the last day". (John 12:48)
These are serious issues, with eternal consequences. Let no-one seek to gainsay another in this debate about homosexuality in place of an
honest-to-God effort to say no more and no less than what God himself has said in the Scriptures. Lest they be found false witnesses.
[edit on 2/4/08 by pause4thought]
