Girl, 5, raped, killed with her jump rope

Well this is truly bizarre, I had just read the article before submitting it.
Now it appears to be different. Well I apologize for posting this if this was an accident. Maybe this thread can go away like a glitch being corrected on the ATS Matrix by the mods and we wont ever know this was even posted.

Ok here is something to debate about. If prostitution was legal in this country would horrific crimes like rape still occur at the rate they do. If it were legal, sickos like this could actually get laid and maybe just maybe our children would be a little safer.


Well now that I have read the thread fully dismiss the above if needed.

[edit on 25-4-2007 by Starwatcher]

the quote about the mistake was in my article, not yours. your article was from Monday, today's Wednesday. Three days for the cops to sort out what happened and for the ME to do his/her job.

No matrix glitch. no web shenanigans. just an older article being updated with newer facts.

I have a feeling that this is a case of a greedy media outlet, looking for a profitable shock & horror tale, that misrepresented the initial story in order to sell papers, and then changed the story when they realized how badly they bungled it.

I'm telling you, people love hearing this stuff, sick as that sounds.
Outrage and indignation sell papers and grab big TV ratings.

On statistic missing in thematrix's post is a telling one: the vast majority of child molestation cases involve a family member.

But you won't see that in any of these horror stories: "internet predators" sell papers, the drunk pervert uncle doesn't.

Oh my god, second thread today like this...

Thats so sick and wrong, wtf is wrong with people?! How the hell do you actually do such a thing and live with yourself?!

What kind of sick...how...I can't ponder murdering someone so innocent. The person had to have had mental issues.

I feel sick...

EDIT: Wait...okay so this is an accident? Okay...well...okay...

[edit on 4/25/2007 by Kacen]

Oh I don't know, there may be a little more to it:



and then:



Only poor people have the pleasure of having the state take custody of their children in a tragedy like this one. So there has to be back tracking to justify the removal of the kids.
In addition, police are notorious for not wanting to incite panic, and have even been known to withhold information in order to bait suspects.


[edit on 25-4-2007 by clearwater]

The second the other inmates find out what this guy did, he becomes Bubba's personal *SNIP* doll.

All I have to say about this. He deserves the punishment he'll get from the other inmates in prison because sex offenders and rapists get the most abuse from other inmates while in prison. Ironic isn't it? Who knew, prison with morals!

This didn't have to happen to a 5 year old girl. We can't turn back time as much as I would like, we can only take pliers and a blowtorch to the guy who did it.

Shattered OUT...

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[edit on 25-4-2007 by DontTreadOnMe]

Even though this was an accident, my feelings about a possible crime that would involve the situation of the original assertion of rape still stands, I believe child molestors will die horrible deaths at the hands of fellow inmates and is well deserved.

I'm sorry for the parent's loss of such a precious child. Accidents do happen.

[edit on 25-4-2007 by ShatteredSkies]

There is always someone who tries to rationalize or condone these things. I guarantee you, before this thread is completed, or closed, or whatever, there will be someone who will try to loot at "the other side" of this incident.

[edit on 25-4-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

And some scumbag in Utah also killed and raped(in that order) a five-year-old girl.








See especially: the underlined sentences:







[edit on 25-4-2007 by Tamahu]

This is very odd- I'm sure there has to be more then what was mentioned in the article. But no matter how you look at it accident or no that little girl is still dead and nothing can change that. Something happened and I hope those cops search deeper for the truth.

Tamahu,I always like your posts because you bring some spiritual clarity to the issue.

Legalizing prostitution would not do anything to decrease these sorts of crimes. They aren't committed by people looking to "get laid". These are crimes driven by hate, purely and simply.

They are ego-driven, it's a way to show the victim, in the most heinous way, that they are powerless. Sex is merely a byproduct of the powertrip, a way to stamp their brand into the victim. The pleasure is derived from the exersize of power, not the sexual act itself.

Thank you.

That is what we need most right now.

As Goethe said: "The law of the woeful and severe man acquires fights and is agitated. What he needs the most is what he knows the least...


And it may sound like "my way or the high-way", fire and brimstone, etc.

Nevertheless, the facts are overwhelming; such as stories like the one in this thread were posting in.



Either work toward Mastery, or burn in the Universal Blazing Fire that is about to wipe out this perverted humanity.







In other words, those who don't work on transmuting and eliminating their lust, will inevitably fall into nature's arc of devolution.







Guys like the ones that this thread is about will be suffering in the Hell-Realms for many, many eons.




[edit on 25-4-2007 by Tamahu]

The ego is the result of lust(desire).

Anger and hatred are based on frustrated desire(and ignorance of course).

So when one feeds lust(the root of desire) over successive lifetimes, the result is that the egos(such as hatred) within one's psyche just get bigger, stronger, and more perverse over time.

So whoever it was that mentioned prostitution as a solution.., just know that prostitution will only make things worse.



Transmutation(the Middle Way) is the Key to positive change.


Suppression and indulgence are always harmful.




[edit on 25-4-2007 by Tamahu]

I through thinking I'm a pessimist, I'm darned near optimistict compared to some of you. Yes there are bad things happening in our world, no denying that. Yet for all the bad, there is an equal amount of good out there too. Small, and not so small, acts of everyday kindness that go unreported, unrewarded, but always appriciated. The kindnesses that help us to make our way through the morass that is our everyday world.

You may not see it, because of the concentration on the bad, but its there nevertheless.

See this:

I'm not sure if you were aiming that at me, and if you were, why? I would agree with all, or at least most of what was said there. I don't pretend to understand Bhuddism, it's mostly outside my frame of cultural reference. What little I do know I respect.

As it, the quote you posted, said; we all seek enlightenment in our own special way, and recieve it the same way. If you meant by concentrating too much on the good to the exclusion of the bad, you may have a point, but the reverse holds true as well.

If that's not what you meant, well then I'm totally confused .

Your correct about focusing on the negative too much.

It can certainly be counter-productive.


I was simply pointing out, that ignoring the negative too much can lead to results similar to, or worse than, focusing on the negative too much.




[edit on 25-4-2007 by Tamahu]

Nice to see that I actually caught that.

The topic was horrific but the past few exchanges with both you and Speaker have been informative and, well, fun.

To both of you, if I have enough left, bright shiney Way Aboves.

Nope. None left. My good thoughts instead.... It's my bedtime, gotta go to work in a few hours. I look forward to our next chats.

[edit on 25-4-2007 by seagull]

My question exactly.........................

Terrible things happen every single day.
Mass murders and war crimes I think are ATS related, but every single unwarrented death on the planet?

Do we need to have them posted on the boards? I do not see how they bring any discussion forward beyond saying how unthinkably terrible it is............