How Many Believe in God?

So they didn't have science "back then"? Hehe. That's a good one. Take the Great Pyramid for instance. Thousands of years old, but still it is a symbol of highly elolved scientific understanding of the Earth, the Universe, math, physics, biology, you name it. Or how do you suppose the Arabs managed to calculate the circumferance of the earth hundreds of years before Christ was born. The people back then were just as intelligent and clever as we are today, perhaps even smarter.... How old are you? Thirteen?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

So they didn't have science "back then"? Hehe. That's a good one. Take the Great Pyramid for instance. Thousands of years old, but still it is a symbol of highly elolved scientific understanding of the Earth, the Universe, math, physics, biology, you name it. Or how do you suppose the Arabs managed to calculate the circumferance of the earth hundreds of years before Christ was born. The people back then were just as intelligent and clever as we are today, perhaps even smarter.... How old are you? Thirteen?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

I do not believe in any God...

I have my own beliefs, but they do include an afterlife, reincarnation, and the Universal force as the closest thing to divinity.....

Interesting......Mind if I inquire for more details?? If you would rather not or maybe U2U me that is ok too...I won't attack your ideas but I would like to hear what you have to say as it seems original in design..

yes, I believe in God...I am Pentacostal

It's not the lack of intelligence, very intelligent people are able to act like that. See my post here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I was an existentialist for a while but I outgrew that. Now I believe in Unity. All should meditate

For one i think thier is a difference between the term,
"GOD" and "CREATOR".
"God" refers to a being with unimaginable powers with the ability to render space and time itself.
"Creator", For all we know we could have been created in a test tube millions of years ago and brought to evolve on this planet, like some sort of science project.
I believe in a creator.
I believe that we could have been possibly seeded.
I dont believe the fact that thier is a god watching over us.
I believe thier a beings who can do things normal humans cant and could have been justly deemed gods by us seeing these beings perform thier amazing gifts.

The idea of God has brought more war than peace since his existance.
Hes just the "Quicker Picker Upper" of any problems.
Deep

For one i think thier is a difference between the term,
"GOD" and "CREATOR".
"God" refers to a being with unimaginable powers with the ability to render space and time itself.
"Creator", For all we know we could have been created in a test tube millions of years ago and brought to evolve on this planet, like some sort of science project.
I believe in a creator.
I believe that we could have been possibly seeded.
I dont believe the fact that thier is a god watching over us.
I believe thier a beings who can do things normal humans cant and could have been justly deemed gods by us seeing these beings perform thier amazing gifts.

The idea of God has brought more war than peace since his existance.
Hes just the "Quicker Picker Upper" of any problems.
Deep

You have a very Eastern perspective as to who, or like you say what God is. God is a person. He has seven Spirits. He is the Creator of this Heaven and this Earth. The Creator is the King of the the gods and the only one who can truely say he exists at any given time or place, leaving only his place for his human son Jesus for him to minister Earth and the Heavens together with the ecclesia, the chosen and elect whom he bought free with his own blood and suffering, when God rests and strengthens for 1000 years to return together with the Lamb to Earth to live with us forever and ever. To say that the creator of all things isn't God, is to say that George Washington wasn't a president.

Blessings
Mikromarius

And you seem to have a very Christian based View.
Im not christian, and i will not say anything to debunk, or belittle christians.
You believe what you believe, I stated my opinion.
But I still hold true to my statment that "Creator" and "God" are different.
Deep

Fair enough. But would you know him if you met him? Would you ever believe in his story?

I have similar view on God and the Lord. To me they are separate. God being the Father, the Lord being the Son who for my being is Jesus, God's perfect image in who's shape God created the humans. YHWH is the Lord of the Jews (YesHWaH?). Ba'al was the Lord of the Sodomites. God created Heaven and Earth, while the Lord instructed Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of Wisdom. Unlike God, the Lord has enemies or satans who he has to defeat and destroy and protect his children from. This is why Jesus says: "Why do you call me good? There is only one who is good: the Father". Jesus was a man of telepathy, both active and passive. He exists on both sides of the river of life, he hovers above it. This means that he exists at any given time, except before the Father was, but since he is in the bossom of the Father he is equal to the Father, he is the Alfa and Omega, for God protects him from his emergance to the end. But he is not yet God. The Father must first leave his place, something he eventually will do for a thousand years to leave his place to the Lord, who was the Jewish Messiah Jesus, who is the Highest priest in Heaven who's job is to work on the Sabbath as King, this time for a thousand years. This is an eternal story that goes on and on. They can travel from star to star like we travel from town to town, and they look like us.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

That is quite interesting.
I myself am Sikh, and these are what we are taught what God is.

There is only one God, he is the Creator, Sustainer and Destroyer.
"You are the Creator, O Lord, the Unknowable. You created the Universe of diverse kinds, colours and qualities. You know your own Creation. All this is your Play."

"The Formless Supreme Being abides in the Realm of Eternity. Over His creation He casts His glance of grace. In that Realm are contained all the continents and the universes, Exceeding in number all count. Of creation worlds upon worlds abide therein; All obedient to His will; He watches over them in bliss, And has each constantly in mind."

God cannot take human form.

"He neither has father, nor mother, nor sons nor brothers."
"Burnt be the mouth that asserts, the Lord takes birth. He is neither born nor dies; neither enters birth nor departs. All pervasive is Nanaks Lord."

Our religion was founded by Guru Nanek Dev Ji in 1469.
www.sikhs.org...
Heres a link on our Guru
Deep

Of creation worlds upon worlds abide therein,
This is what is also said if you read above, hinting that God just did not create this earth but many others.
I actually never noticed that until now.
Deep

I believe in God. I also believe in Jesus.
I believe in having faith.

I also found this in another holy book of ours, the Japji,

"There is but One God, His name is Truth, He is the Creator, He fears none, he is without hate, He never dies, He is beyond the cycle of births and death, He is self illuminated, He is realized by the kindness of the True Guru. He was True in the beginning, He was True when the ages commenced and has ever been True, He is also True now"

Deep

ZeroDeep: So you're Sikh? *gaze of the diversity on ATS* do you wear a turban and stuff then? Aaron also wore a holy turban. Didn't know the Sikhs categorically refuse the idea that God can materialise himself. To me that's quite absurd since I see the whole Creation as a materialisation of God. Without Creation there would be no God. And without God there would be no creation. Then why is it so impossible that he chooses a human he even creates within the woumb of an undefiled virgin, to be his surrogate when he wants to rest on the seventh Day (we count one Day for God to equal 1000 years on Earth, and as in Heaven so on Earth, as in big so in small, and six Days God creates, on the seveth he rests)? Where can I find some good info on Sikhism?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

ZeroDeep: So you're Sikh? *gaze of the diversity on ATS* do you wear a turban and stuff then? Aaron also wore a holy turban. Didn't know the Sikhs categorically refuse the idea that God can materialise himself. To me that's quite absurd since I see the whole Creation as a materialisation of God. Without Creation there would be no God. And without God there would be no creation. Then why is it so impossible that he chooses a human he even creates within the woumb of an undefiled virgin, to be his surrogate when he wants to rest on the seventh Day (we count one Day for God to equal 1000 years on Earth, and as in Heaven so on Earth, as in big so in small, and six Days God creates, on the seveth he rests)? Where can I find some good info on Sikhism?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

I recognize the Christianity that has been taught to you thru the years. I treat it with respect. However, certain aspects of Christianity deeply troubles me.

You say God's physical presence is not on Earth at the present time. I would have to respectfully disagree. We are God's physical presence as is all around us.

I would also have to respectfully disagree about the tree. Christianity teaches that true "salvation" is limited to but a few. No, all of us will continue on long after our present physical bodies expire. It is in what form will each of us exist. The ones who have allowed God into their heart and do not question his existence and try to pass his love to others will undoubtedly exist on a higher plain while the ones who question or seek without looking within themselves will exist on various different levels.

The written or spoken word of each individual is actually one of the sloppiest ways of trying to figure out what another individual actually thinks. That is why God does not want each of us to judge each other. We really do not know what each individual was or is thinking when they do certain things-especially in speech or writings.

I have heard this one day equals 1000 years before. Again, I would have to disagree. Science, which was given to us by God is the ability to discover and reason. This planet and universe have existed for billions of years. It is a fact as much as can be "proven".

I know you value the Bible and the teachings within. That is good. However, I have not learned from the Bible, Koran, etc, but have learned from within and had much of what I believed confirmed with a recent event in my life.

However, we are both on the same track. We both know the father exists. This is good.

Namaste
madman

No, I'm not 13, I'm more like 17. And why does age have any importance? This sounds like snobbery, looking down on those that you feel are insignificant. I don't know why but some people get enjoyment out of belittling others. I used to have higher opinions of you as a poster.

You say people were more intelligent back then? I believe in the evolution of the human mind, there was/is no longer a need to evolve physically after we had mastered the ability to alter our environment. Why would Egyptians be smarter than us? Are you an Egyptian? Saying that the Egyptians were smarter than us is completely obsurd, there is absolutely zero proof of this and is nothing more than speculation on your part. Fact.

Read my post again, I had said science had no 'real' meaning. They knew how to construct a building, common logic. Something that is pyramid in shape would not fall over and would use less material than a large square building. The extent of their science is questionable.

Would the Egyptians have known what caused lightning? Would the Egyptians have known that rainfall was caused by part by Evapotranspiration?

The Egyptians were ahead of their time in there scientific understanding, but I feel that the extent of their knowledge is greatly over-hyped to make them seem greater and more godlike than what they honestly were.



I have never seen this, if you could provide me with a source of your information that would be great.

My point was and a personal point I tried to make was that, I believe that the Bible and tried to explain the phenomena around them. Obviously you missed my point entirely, and was never supposed to string out any argument. The Bible shows very basic thoughts



Not very scientifical is it? You say they were more intelligent, why isn't there a greater detailed description of how it rained?

Right I'm off, I don't want to get into any religious debates right now,