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We watched it first showing here, so we got to see it at 1545 CET (that's +6 from EST) yesterday.

I loved it. I really, really loved it. After all the poo and boo about it being a weaker film than the others, how the direction was poor, how there was no emotion - it was all garbage.

Fantastic film!

* Aside from my wife and I, there were only 3 others that knew to stay after the credits - and I'm really glad that we did!

Horribly, horribly disappointing film. Then again, I held it to the same standards as the other ones, so maybe that was my problem. No, actually I think it was the fact that Brett Ratner ended up directing up....

The previews were well edited at least!

On reflection:

Cyclops.. they turned him into a flake [for obvious reasons].. "He's a different man now." I'm guessing it was a contract thing [allowing for more Halle time].

The part where the bad guys are ordered to guared the house and not let Wolverine and Storm in.. yet the bad guy picks him up and throws him through the front window. That made alot of sense..

Where X defends his behaviour to Wolverine and sounds like a bumbling idiot.. again.. probably to make him morally expendable.
Where X has a go at wolverine for waking up Phoenix.. even though she woke herself up. EDIT. The man is suppose to be a powerful psychic. ..he knew she was alive a thousand miles away but didn't know how she woke up?

The really bad al-cheapo cost cutting rubber bits stuck to Mistiques face, and the scene which had her morphing for absolutely no reason. Magnitos uncharacteristic [in the context of the other films] betrayal, he would have at least covered her up.

The ice-man stand off at the end.. very original.. not reminisent of Star Wars at all.

Halle Berry's failed acting attempt to create 'tension' and chemistry between storm and Wolverine [contract thing- they should not have caved to her demands].

The pre-battle near group hug moment. [at least they didn't hi-5]

The flying guy who had no real impact on the plot yet had an opening scene dedicated to creating his charactor.

The bad editing.. there seemed to be not only scenes missing but scenes cut in half. Other scenes seemed rushed while others seemed detailed. There wasn't enough continuity to allow the viewer to get drawn in.


I'm sure I'll buy the dvd though.

[edit on 27-5-2006 by riley]

I liked it

I could pick things out and rip them up, but over all I liked the movie so I won’t beat it down (at least not yet.)
One thing I’ll say is that there were way too many characters to deal with and screen time was too short with “main” characters. But I knew it was going to be like that.

I thought Beast was a good. His few second of fighting was perfect “Beast fighting” it could have been a page right out of the comic.
Storm was the best out of the three movies. But I guess it wasn’t enough because Wolverine is shouting orders in battle instead of Storm

I do think fans will have a lot of different opinions on this movie. It does greatly stray away from the comics. IMO that is a good thing.
I stayed past the credits too


[Edit - I'll be getting into the movie a bit more on my blog too.]

[edit on 27/5/2006 by Umbrax]

Umbrax, you locked a topic that I was replying in earlier - I hope that you won't mind if I put those comments in here now, considering the time I took to write them:

Sounds like we saw two different films.



Scott's been a spoiled little whiner since the very first film. Marsden wasn't happy (referenced on tons of interviews) with his character or playing in the film, so Rattner obviously cut him (and everyone else) a break. Cyclops was far from the most focal or popular character.



That was definately a Juggernaut action. Marko isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, nor was he ever portrayed as such in the film. It made perfect sense...



The entire point of that, plus several other key scenes with Professor X was so that we could learn that he is not the perfect saint, but a man who takes questionable steps if needed, to meet his beliefs. That helped to blur the line between he and Magneto. This was the basis of the "Take a stand" campaign...

He didn't "have a go" at Logan... he wasn't there to see that Wolverine was not responsible for Jean going bonkers and acted on instinct.



I didn't have any problems with the special effects or make uo, and I really don't think that your critique of her facial appearance has merit. The scenes where she was morphing were done to show 1. The range of her abilities and 2. To play head games with the security personnel.



I agree. It was original and was in no way reminiscent of anything in Star Wars other than the "good vs evil"



I'm not sure where or how you have gained access to these contracts that you keep quoting, but I would like to know.

The pre-battle near group hug moment. [at least they didn't hi-5]



His name is Warren Kenneth Worthington III, codename: Angel. He's not "the flying guy". I'm thinking that his impact on the plot was that his father was the developer of the "cure" that was the focal point for the entire feature.



Ya lost me again there - without any references or examples I can't comment.

I was in no way disappointed. You, for example, complain that there was less character development than in 1 and 2. That´s right, but you should not see X3 as a single film. You should see it as part of a trilogy.

Character development was done in 1 and 2 (to a certain extent), so part 3 could be “assigned” to be the big finale of the battle, which it indeed was. Sure, there are new faces, which would give an interesting story, but where would this have lead to? Tell the indepth story of Colossus, of Shadowcat, of the Morlocks, of Multiple Man, the family bonds between Juggernaut and Prof. X, the circumstances how Xavier lost the use of his legs, etc… there wouldn´t be any time left to bring up a story.

If I may, there have been plenty of movies out there that I saw and that I thought sucked (though in reviewing them I do try to employ slightly more well-read adjectives). It's really best to have a level of familiarity with the subject matter. Grammar, spelling, referencing facts, and proper use of character names go a long way of helping write a more readable review.

I say this not because I loved this film and you didn't - but as a writer. When I've had comics reviewed by folks who didn't have a firm grasp of what they were reviewing, I felt cheated

I completely agree with you there. Cyclops was hardly even in X2 he was captured and “brainwashed.” I was shocked as to what happened with him in the third movie though.



I thought he was going to kill her to "put her out of her misery."
To Magneto humans are nothing. The only feeling he has for them is hate...he almost killed them all in X2.

I've seen 1 and 2. It's a movie.. it does not require having read every single comic.

Picking on typos? Subtle.. you usually are only suppose to do that after you've started losing an argument. The film irritated me.. I was giving my opinion on it.. I do not need to be an X-MEN expert to do so. It was badly directed and the flow was extremily erratic. Mistique's make up in the last one was paint and gel based pieces. This one was basically a rubber mask. I was not publishing a review for a large newspaper.. this is a forum. It is does not require three hours work, research or perfect grammar.

And I say this.. not because you disagree with me.. but as someone who doesn't appreciate blatent personal insults and snide put downs. We both know I had some very valid points but for some reason you had to shoot ALL of them down.. why? Because for some unknown reason you took it personally.. like I am now. I'm sorry I don't have your 'firm grasp' [..yep] on this 'comic'.. but the fact is I didn't see it as a comic but as a movie so judged it accordingly.. besides which your grasp on it is not anymore valid than anyone else's. Now.. as for you being a writer.. unless you actually wrote this movie yourself you have absolutely no reason to feel cheated by my review [that and I have a problem more with it's director than it's writer].
Film is an completely different medium than comics. Understand?

[edit on 27-5-2006 by riley]

Did the scene set this up properly? Wolverine guessed. The last we saw of him he was kissing his girlfriend and then she was found unconcious. She was fine before hand.. perhaps they left the battle out to make the one with the proffessor more shocking.

True but she was still his main sidekick [who had just saved his 'life'].. the scene seemed inadequate.

[edit on 27-5-2006 by riley]

I thought it was awesome having Moira Mctaggert .

I don't think they will have a X4 though, just because of the cost of the cast.
I'm really loooking forward to a Wolverine movie

Alright.. so maybe there are reasons to refer to the comics. I thought he just happened to know the name of the nurse and said it to startle her..

BTW. I have to agree with the Rogue issue. Pretty piss poor effort on that storyline.. I really liked that charactor.

[edit on 27-5-2006 by riley]

Moira wasn't just at the end of the movie, she was at the funeral and was introduced earlier in the film.

In the comic she had romantic relations with the professor. Moira was the world's leading authorities on genetic mutationone and one of the few humans that were aiding the X-Men.

I remember the 'ethical leacture' about the coma patient. Wasn't that the same nurse [or doctor]? Unfortuantly I don't remember her part in the funeral scene. It's annoying because [obviously] I didn't like the movie but it had half decent visuals in it which I wouldn't mind seeing again. Cinemas don't have fast forward.
In aus the actual picture quality was alot paler than the previous movies.. was this just on the one I saw or did other people notice this?

So he knew he was going to die.. and thats why the ethics speech was made to the kids and she had his new body waiting for him? Thats sweet.

Awww.

BEST MOVIE EVER

Definatly lived up to and surpassed the first two films. You guys just went in to the movie thinking it was gonna be bad.

My only problems with the movie is that the angel parts were irrelevant
and the fact that Wolverines hair didnt burn at all, but who wants to see a bald wolverine?

I give the movie 5 stars out of 5




No there can and there will be an Xmen 4. We need to see Gambit and mor Nightcrawler theyre so cool

[edit on 27-5-2006 by Vegemite]

riley, I guess that we're going to have to agree to disagree here, but a word to the wise - you may wish to develop thicker skin if you plan to make reviews. You acted as though I was attacking you as a person, when I was doing nothing more than countering your comments. That's sorta what happens when you review something in a public forum...

Hi Bripe Klmun!
I just wasn't going to pretend that your very veiled personal digs weren't personal or that that your critisisms were constructive or even relevent.. it seems other people noticed the same things I did so I guess they didn't have an adequate 'grasp' on it either.
Again.. movie/comic: two different things.
Thankyou for your concerns about my feelings though, maybe I do need a thicker skin but perhaps you could use better judgement in how you respond to people in future.
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I didn't notice that before.. [glad I didn't- I liked that scene. Showing the ribs was very effective]. Reminds me of 'Queen of the damned' where a Vampire's heart is ripped out.. the scene looks sensational [opposed to the rest of the movie] but the thing is the heart is kind of.. beating. .. or the 'book burning' scene of 'The day after tomorow'. I wish directors that show off with details wouldn't overlook more obvious ones.

[edit on 28-5-2006 by riley]