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Topic started on 25-3-2005 @ 07:27 AM by phixion
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A young kindergartner pupil has been struck down and killed by a car while they crossed the road in front of their school bus. The boy, a five year
old names Dameatruis McCreary from Oregon as crossing the street after finishing from school yesterday what a driver didn't manage to stop for the
flashing lights and the extended stop sign placed on the bus, the boy was struck, the driver unhurt.
www.wchstv.com
The boy was taken by helicopter to Toledo Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Police say the driver of the car wasn't hurt. Chief Tom Gulch says she was talking on her cell phone to an attorney when police approached her after
the accident.
Police say alcohol wasn't a factor in the crash. No charges have been filed.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
My regards go out to the victims family and friends as this much be a terrible shock and loss to them. What were the factors behind this crash?
Apparently alcohol was not involved in any way, so what was it, drugs, speeding or just bad driving. What ever it was I feel that the woman should be
charged with murder, not manslaughter, as she must have been travelling relatively fast to kill the child.
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 07:49 AM by elevatedone
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I live in Toledo.... wow, didn't see this on the news....
Very Sad, I remember when I was just starting school, I was told every day about watching out when crossing the roads and don't be "fooling
around" when getting on and off the bus.
I'm not putting the blame on the child or parents, just making a statement.
People really need to be aware of school buses... you never know when they're going to be making a stop... except... oh yeah.... THOSE FLASHING
YELLOW LIGHTS THAT COME ON BEFORE THE RED ONES !!!!
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 07:52 AM by Skibum
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Nah, murder involves premeditated intent. This does show that all cars need to be banned though. How can we allow so many deaths to happen just so
people can drive cars. Makes me sick to think that such dangerous things are allowed to be posessed.
BAN CARS!!!!!!!!!
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 07:53 AM by phixion
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Why the negative voting? Can people no give a reason to why they voted no?
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:12 AM by elevatedone
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Originally posted by phixion
A young kindergartner pupil has been struck down and killed by a car while they crossed the road in front of their school bus. The boy, a five year
old names Dameatruis McCreary from Oregon as crossing the street after finishing from school yesterday what a driver didn't manage to stop for the
flashing lights and the extended stop sign placed on the bus, the boy was struck, the driver unhurt. 
My guess would be...
it should be ... a student named - not names ( I know, just a typo )
Orgeon where, when I first read it, I thought the state of Oregon, not Oregon OH
This is more than one sentance... ( to me )...
The boy, a five year old names Dameatruis McCreary from Oregon as crossing the street after finishing from school yesterday what a driver didn't
manage to stop for the flashing lights and the extended stop sign placed on the bus, the boy was struck, the driver unhurt.
those are little things that I noticed....
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:15 AM by sanctum
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Originally posted by phixion
Why the negative voting? Can people no give a reason to why they voted no? 
This is a tragic accident. My thoughts are with the McCreary family.
phixion, i voted no because there is no conspiracy or 'cover up' of facts.
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:17 AM by Gazrok
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What ever it was I feel that the woman should be charged with murder, not manslaughter, as she must have been travelling relatively fast to kill the
child.

As mentioned, I doubt her intent was to kill the child. Vehicular manslaughter, and the charge for not stopping for the bus should definitely stick
though. In addition, the woman should have her license suspended for a time, while she attends some traffic school to learn the damn law... She's
also of course, going to have to live with the fact that she killed a very young child, and that's going to be far and above any jail time and
fines...
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:22 AM by phixion
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Originally posted by sanctum
Originally posted by phixion
Why the negative voting? Can people no give a reason to why they voted no? 
This is a tragic accident. My thoughts are with the McCreary family.
phixion, i voted no because there is no conspiracy or 'cover up' of facts.

I thought the ATSNN was the Above Top Secret News Network, as in a network for news, not conspiracys. The whole rest of the forum has a conspiracy
related section, the new network is just for news, not conspiracies.
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:34 AM by mOjOm
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Listen to you people...
"We should try her for Murder not Man Slaughter!"
"We should ban all Cars!"
You people have lost your minds. This woman wasn't a Killer and it's not the fault of the Car the child is dead either. The woman is a typical
self involved "Modern Woman on the Go" who decided to talk on the damn phone instead of paying attention while driving a 2 ton box of steal. This
is an awful accident that should never of happened and certainly could have been avoided. I see people do that very same thing all the time and
they're not out to murder anyone either and their car isn't the problem either. The problem is that everyone lives in a fast paced, instant
gratification, it's all about me and my money and my Image kind of a world which doesn't allow for little things like pausing for a school bus
dropping off kids.
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:46 AM by elevatedone
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Originally posted by mOjOm
Listen to you people...
You people have lost your minds. This woman wasn't a Killer and it's not the fault of the Car the child is dead either. The woman is a typical
self involved "Modern Woman on the Go" who decided to talk on the damn phone instead of paying attention while driving a 2 ton box of steal.

The article doesn't say she was on the phone while driving... she was on the phone with her attny, after the accident...
Police say the driver of the car wasn't hurt. Chief Tom Gulch says she was talking on her cell phone to an attorney when police approached her after
the accident.

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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 08:57 AM by mOjOm
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Ah yes you're right, sorry I read that wrong the first time. It doesn't change my stance any though in fact it may even add strength to it. Now
she doesn't even have the excuse of being distracted on the phone when it happened. I guess she's just too damn important to have to stop for any
insignificant children who may wander into traffic which they're known to do quite often. Hence the whole point of the Flashing Red Stop Sign and
all, but I guess that is just a little too much to ask of Queenie.
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reply posted on 25-3-2005 @ 09:13 AM by Skibum
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Originally posted by mOjOm
Listen to you people...
"We should try her for Murder not Man Slaughter!"
"We should ban all Cars!"
You people have lost your minds. This woman wasn't a Killer and it's not the fault of the Car the child is dead either. The woman is a typical
self involved "Modern Woman on the Go" who decided to talk on the damn phone instead of paying attention while driving a 2 ton box of steal. This
is an awful accident that should never of happened and certainly could have been avoided. I see people do that very same thing all the time and
they're not out to murder anyone either and their car isn't the problem either. The problem is that everyone lives in a fast paced, instant
gratification, it's all about me and my money and my Image kind of a world which doesn't allow for little things like pausing for a school bus
dropping off kids. 
That was a semi sarcastic reply, directed at the people whos first response to firearms incidents is to ban or further regulate guns.
[edit on 25/3/05 by Skibum]
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reply posted on 26-3-2005 @ 04:32 AM by mOjOm
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Originally posted by Skibum
That was a semi sarcastic reply, directed at the people whos first response to firearms incidents is to ban or further regulate guns.
[edit on 25/3/05 by Skibum] 
Hmmm...I suppose it was a little bit sarcastic, but that can be kinda common coming from me so it's difficult for me to tell sometimes. Personally I
thought it was a pretty straight forward post and dealing with the issue at hand. But I can't exactly be an impartial judge when it's my own words
so I guess the important thing is that I note your reaction as it will serve me best in the future to understand how others recieve what I say.
As for the gun thing though, nope, not my intention at all. I do see the similarity now that you mention it and is a great example I suppose. But I
honestly don't have much of an opinion about Gun Control to be honest with you. I've been shooting and I like to fire off a few rounds when given
the chance, but it's not like I plan ahead for it or anything. Shotguns I'd say are my favorite because of the sound and damage. Rifles are ok and
I've shot a 357 a few times. Even shot a .50 cal once that was pretty interesting. Aside from that I really don't care either way about 'em I
guess. I'm more interested in the people behind the guns, or steering wheels in this case and even without cars or guns they'd still be my primary
concern.
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