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reply posted on 6-3-2005 @ 09:13 AM by Seapeople
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I just want to chime in on something here.
Please note that I did not waste any time reading any opinions or thoughts put forth on this thread.
All I have to say is,
Yes, the government hates people and their propoganda stating that getting drunk, having wild sex with multiple partners, selling crack, smoking other
various drugs, killing, fighting, murdering, stealing, non stop on the block is a good thing.
Young kids idolize those untalented jerks. I am not talking about r&b. I am talking about rap. Even the stuff they play on the radio. It is
garbage. Those disgusting jerk's like 50 cent, and lil kim should not be marketed to young children like they are., let alone anyone.
So, if the government hates rap, they hate the lifestyle it supports. Let me tell you so do I. It is a shame that more people don't share these
views.... I am sure many of those same people who disagree with me complain an awful lot about how crappy life is for them.
They hate it? No conspiracy, it is what the majority of righteous citizens want. Do you honestly think that that nonsense and garbage is good for
this country, or our children?? I really hope that I missed the point of this thread. Because if you are upset that people in the government hate
this, then you are a moron.
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reply posted on 6-3-2005 @ 09:13 AM by TheBandit795
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I don't believe the ignorance and unfair judgements made against rap in this thread... Seriously. The post above by the Truth being a prime example
of ignorance.
Keep spouting ignorance and stupidity and the thread will be closed.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 07:13 PM by Seapeople
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Unfair?
Rap is probably the single most destructive force in society today. Turn on your radio dial. WHat do you hear? An untalented guy named ofter change
talking about whats wrong with this country.
It is sick. It is unfoar to our youth. Rap is destructive. There is so much garbage out there today, but nothing even comes close to comparing with
rap. Ignorance is when you don't admit it. It is when you become part of the problem.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 07:29 PM by 00PS
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Originally posted by Seapeople
Unfair?
Rap is probably the single most destructive force in society today. Turn on your radio dial. WHat do you hear? An untalented guy named ofter change
talking about whats wrong with this country.
It is sick. It is unfoar to our youth. Rap is destructive. There is so much garbage out there today, but nothing even comes close to comparing with
rap. Ignorance is when you don't admit it. It is when you become part of the problem. 
You're just trying to get the thread shut down right? How can music be a destroying force in society? Think about the war on drugs, now that's a
destroying force in society. And you are part of the problem here at ats, yes that means you are ignorant. There is worse music than rap and there are
worse people than you but your posting in this thread is one of the worst. Take it else where. Your hate isn't needed.
You just hate rap or black people too?
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:01 PM by TheBandit795
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Society is it's own destructive force and doesn't need rap to do that. Plain and Simple. And furthermore, there is a lot of uplifting, positive rap
out there.
Just look at Kanye West and NAS for example.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:05 PM by Seapeople
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Kanye west...such a good example.
"and 2 and 3 and 4 and get them sit ups right and
Tuck your tummy tight and do your crunches like this
Give head, stop breathe, get up, check your weave
Don't drop the blunt and disrespect the weed
Pick up your son and don't disrespect your seed
It's a party tonight and ooh she's so excited
Tell me who's invited: you, your friends and my dick
What's scary to me is Henny makes girls look like Halle Berry to me
So excuse me miss, I forgot your name
Thank you, God bless you, good night I came.."
HMMMMM Interesting. He refers to god as always...IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS HE REFERS TO EJACULATING IN A WOMAN. He speaks of weed and respecting the
blundt in the same sentence.
Yeah bandit...just look at kanye west..... Nice
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:29 PM by I_s_i_s
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Rappers are talented? Please!
I have not heard one single rap song that has any positive message to today's youth.
Heck i can do a rapper's income tax return just by listening to his song. I got this and i got that. Thats truth? No one's interested in how much
money they have. Most videos just promote the use of drugs, violence and getting b*tches. Yea thats wonderful! Exactly what today's youth need to
learn. How do i make a quick buck and look cool and get all the b*tches.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:32 PM by 00PS
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Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Rappers are talented? Please!
I have not heard one single rap song that has any positive message to today's youth.
Heck i can do a rapper's income tax return just by listening to his song. I got this and i got that. Thats truth? No one's interested in how much
money they have. Most videos just promote the use of drugs, violence and getting b*tches. Yea thats wonderful! Exactly what today's youth need to
learn. How do i make a quick buck and look cool and get all the b*tches. 
so you are admitting you are ignorant about rap ok..looks like you need to be educated.
There is good rap there is bad rap
there are good people there are bad people
there are good cars there are bad cars
there are goot ats posters there are bad ats posters....which one are you
get the picture wise guy?
before you generalize anything or anyone go look in the mirror. are you white? would you like me to tell you all white people are racist? no, that's
bad....just as bad for you to say all rap is bad without talent.
thanks
have a nice day
IGNORE
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:47 PM by I_s_i_s
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Look buddy, there's no need to get into an argument about opinions here. Good or bad rap is a matter of opinion.
Educate me. Give me an example of good rap with a positive message?
 get the picture wise guy? 
Ehem...Wise girl.
before you generalize anything or anyone go look in the mirror. are you white? would you like me to tell you all white people are racist? no, that's
bad....just as bad for you to say all rap is bad without talent.

What? I'm racist now? Hey that should get you warned buddy. How the heck did you jump to that conclusion. Did I say anything against black people?
Yes, almost every rapper is black. So by denouncing rap i'm negating any talent in black people? Your logic is totally flawed.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:50 PM by 00PS
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My logic is flawed? You said there are no good rappers. Does that mean there are no good white people? Seems simple to me. Of course there are good
white people, there are good cars, there are good ATS posters and there is good RAP....
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:52 PM by I_s_i_s
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Give me a good example of a rap song with a positive message?
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:56 PM by 00PS
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Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Give me a good example of a rap song with a positive message? 
How about I just tell you what I'm listening to now
LL Cool J - I need love...it's sweet
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:57 PM by I_s_i_s
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Does that mean there are no good white people? Seems simple to me. Of course there are good white people, there are good cars, there are good
ATS posters and there is good RAP....
Wait wait! I'm not attacking the personal life of a rapper. I dont know any personally and I couldnt care less. Sure a rapper could be a good guy
offscreen. SO what? I was specific about "Rap" and how knowing how to rap does not require much talent.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:57 PM by 00PS
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Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Give me a good example of a rap song with a positive message? 
How about I just tell you what I'm listening to now
LL Cool J - I need love...it's sweet
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 08:57 PM by 00PS
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Woah...triple posting...
next good rap song with positive message I'm listening too..." The Roof Is On Fire"
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 09:38 PM by TheBandit795
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Originally posted by Seapeople
Kanye west...such a good example.
"and 2 and 3 and 4 and get them sit ups right and
Tuck your tummy tight and do your crunches like this
Give head, stop breathe, get up, check your weave
Don't drop the blunt and disrespect the weed
Pick up your son and don't disrespect your seed
It's a party tonight and ooh she's so excited
Tell me who's invited: you, your friends and my dick
What's scary to me is Henny makes girls look like Halle Berry to me
So excuse me miss, I forgot your name
Thank you, God bless you, good night I came.."
HMMMMM Interesting. He refers to god as always...IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS HE REFERS TO EJACULATING IN A WOMAN. He speaks of weed and respecting the
blundt in the same sentence.
Yeah bandit...just look at kanye west..... Nice 
So? Don't they do the same thing in Rock? In classic Rock? In Salsa? In Merengue? In Soca?
They have dirty songs in every music genre not only in rap. OK?
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 09:50 PM by TheBandit795
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Method Man Mary J Blige: you're All I Need
Ghostface: All That I got Is You, Love
2Pac: Dear Mamma, Hold Your Head Up
Black Eyed Peas: Where's the Luv?
Nas: I can, Black Jesus
Public Enemy - Fight the Power
RZA feat Remedy
Education
Wu Tang Clan- For Heavens Sake
Skeelo - I Wish
And while you guys are dissin rap, Yale is studying it.
www.yale.edu...
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 09:51 PM by TheBandit795
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Can you rap freestyle and on the spot? And make the lyrics rhyme as well??
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 09:57 PM by TheBandit795
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
He speaks of weed and respecting the blundt in the same sentence.

And If you have an objection to that, then you would also have an objection to "La Cucaracha" which was often in looney tunes cartoons.
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reply posted on 8-3-2005 @ 10:13 PM by 00PS
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Don't bring up yale, you'll get a bunch of peole coming in here dissin liberals.
Man we ain't even talking bout free style but now that you bringing it up we got much more to talk about...
I don't freestyle that good but I try and that's positive enough Isis, freestyle is a form of language and music, spittin' it out before writin it
out matchin it to the rhythm and beat isn't as easy as you might think
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